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Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 287068)

That's good, and it would appear a given training department would be reluctant to draw in an applicant without a certain hope for viability through training. I still wonder if it is smart to go rushing in with only 250 hours if you are one of them however.

Except for the smallest airlines, most training departments don't have a say in the review of individual applicants - they train whomever the company sends them.

As far as the wisdom of rushing in with 250 hours - that is the point of much debate here lately. A 250 hour pilot doesn't necessarily lack potential, but clearly lacks experience which can bite a new pilot as they jump into the reality of airline operations. There are expectations of a new hire pilot that are much higher than those found in initial training at an FBO or university.

Is it do-able? Of course, many pilots over the past several years have jumped through that hoop. Like anything, there will always be those at the left shoulder of the bell curve that measures success - my guess would it's those with minimum experience.

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Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 286917)

This is why I stay out of it for the time being. I am going to serve my stretch as a flight instructor then come on when I think I am really proficient at it. It just isn't worth the gamble. And the regionals have no problem burning through 250-500 hour pilot applicants. It doesn't cost them very much to have you come down and struggle with it and then leave. My guess is a few grand per failure. The low mins thing is not all it's cracked up to be as far as young pilots are concerned.

You're doing the same thing I have planned to do. After accumulating 750-1000 hrs TT, my plans are then to apply, not before. Flight training is an investment in which I plan on getting gugobs of ROI!!!!:D

atp

Does AE even hire people at 250? Does anyone for that matter?
I know there is a bit of exaggeration here, but this is half of their requirement.

Yep I personally know pilots hired at Eagle through bridge programs with 195 hours....141 pilot. Also several 235 hours pilots as well. ALLATPS pilots.

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Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 287173)

Yep I personally know pilots hired at Eagle through bridge programs with 195 hours....141 pilot. Also several 235 hours pilots as well. ALLATPS pilots.

Thats just plane scarry!:eek:

The ATP students, I am sure, paled in comparison to the 141 trainees. Very different training there...

"The ATP students, I am sure, paled in comparison to the 141 trainees."

Just to make it clear. You just dissed ATP. I had to look up a word, though.

what again is wrong with dissing ATP? not saying anything for my oppinion, cuase I didnt personaly go there. But one hears stories around the campfire...:D

The only time I used ATP was when I opted for their $295 ATP prep and written. I would not recommend doing any flight training as many of the instructors have bad attitudes.