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flynavyj 12-26-2007 09:49 PM

and when i did my written prep, i read the book in cruise for a four day, had it done in 3 days, reviewed again on the 4th....took the test, omitted the performance, and was rewarded with a piece of paper saying i barely passed....but barely is passing enough.

III Corps 12-27-2007 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 287013)
When you go to an airline, they're paying you. They expect you will find the resources to pass.

If that is the case, the 'team' concept is empty verbage. As a check airman, I always took time to make sure the pilots were ready for training and as a "team" we would go through the syllabus.

Any failure and the Senior first went to the check airman to find out 1) why the airman failed 2) if there were any difficulties and if so why the airman was put up for the ride. The first one to dance was not the airman but the check airman.

Yes, the expect the applicant to do the work but to say they expect you to find the resources is a sign there is something amiss with the company culture. And considering all the resources that have been expended to get someone to an oral or a sim check, it sounds like p*ss poor management and a huge waste of time, money and resources.

stillageek 12-27-2007 06:17 AM

For full disclosure. I am an ALLATP pilot. A former instructor with 560/440 when I applied to Eagle. I enjoyed my time at ATP and actually took a paycut to come to Eagle. Although every plane at eagle has an air conditioner which helps even out the lower pay versus sweating my rear off in a Seminole.

RJ Pilot 12-27-2007 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 287339)
Although every plane at eagle has an air conditioner which helps even out the lower pay versus sweating my rear off in a Seminole.

I rather have you sweat your rear off in a seminole for a few more years before coming to a 121 airline.

maveric311 12-27-2007 09:02 AM

agreed
 
I have spilled my share of sweat in the archers and Seminoles here in AZ for a year now. 1100/300 multi. still on the low side of hours but I cant put a value on the experience I have gained while "sweating my rear off".

cbram 12-27-2007 09:14 AM

atp has an awesome program for the atp written. i went in there cold at 8am and did the program until 5pm and took the test and got an 85.

Salsa Doom 12-27-2007 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by cbram (Post 287410)
atp has an awesome program for the atp written. i went in there cold at 8am and did the program until 5pm and took the test and got an 85.

What is so special about the program at ATP anyways, regarding the ATP written? What methods are they using to get you ready to pass the test so quickly?

AirWillie 12-27-2007 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by rustypilot (Post 287243)
The only time I used ATP was when I opted for their $295 ATP prep and written. I would not recommend doing any flight training as many of the instructors have bad attitudes.

Anybody who relys on a flight school to make them great pilots is retarded.

AirWillie 12-27-2007 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Salsa Doom (Post 287431)
What is so special about the program at ATP anyways, regarding the ATP written? What methods are they using to get you ready to pass the test so quickly?

Instead of having a 1000 question bank, through their program they've reduced it to 300 or so. You spend the whole day "studying" them and take it when you're ready. Really good pass rate.

cfii2007 12-27-2007 01:55 PM

So what areas do they omit? I've pretty much dropped the B1900/727 performance sections so far.


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