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IrishFlyer757 01-31-2012 07:01 PM

How do they guys in the B1900D drop a deucer at FL240 with no lav?

I know that sounds like a smart-alec question - but what if you seriously have to go and you have a plane full of passengers in the back?

PSpence 01-31-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by 1900CA (Post 1123029)
I just left Lakes at the beginning of the year. Upgrades on the 1900 are back down to about a year with people willing to accept some of the junior bases (FMN, PRC, maybe CYS) and hovering around 1.5 to people who are holding out for DEN. As far as a new FO, from what I heard and saw most of the FO's that were awarded bases in either PRC or FMN moved to those bases full time and signed year leases on apartments. That being said there is a possibility that you could be able to hold DEN fairly quick if not right away. Most of the time as a new hire if you want back to DEN you can expect it to take 3 months. That is considering all your cards fall into place perfectly. There are several good options for crash pads at most of the outstation that range from $80 - $150 a month, as long as your not too good for an air mattress in a house/apartment where yo may have to share a room with someone else for 3-5 nights a month. One up side to an outstation base as opposed to DEN is that the lines in those bases are averaging around 85 hr of flying a month where most of the DEN lines are around 75 hrs.

If I may ask, what airline or place did you leave for? Also, at what point could one transition over to the EMB120 once at Lakes? Or, is that aircrat so senior that it's not really an option ...

gearcrankr 02-01-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 1126852)
How do they guys in the B1900D drop a deucer at FL240 with no lav?

I know that sounds like a smart-alec question - but what if you seriously have to go and you have a plane full of passengers in the back?


You drop a deuce in the FO's lunch pail. Then you wipe using part of your

tshirt. True story. It happened when I worked there from 94-97. DIK to DEN.

Machne722 02-01-2012 11:06 AM

The 120 doesn't go that senior. The top few DEN captains are really senior and it is pretty junior after that. It is much more common for bro f/o's to upgrade into the beech. The reason 1. They bro only go's to three different places, and 2. Unless your super senior you would only be able to hold a ISN domicile. But in theory you could probably transition within 2 years w/ the company.

fatmike69 02-01-2012 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 1126852)
How do they guys in the B1900D drop a deucer at FL240 with no lav?

I know that sounds like a smart-alec question - but what if you seriously have to go and you have a plane full of passengers in the back?

Reference this thread for some insight:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ort-funny.html

IrishFlyer757 03-14-2012 07:03 PM

Any guys currently at Lakes have any feeling for the seniority of MSP as a base? Looking to go to Lakes at the end of this year and just wondering the possibility of MSP so I could live in-base.

ThumperCO 03-15-2012 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757 (Post 1152030)
Any guys currently at Lakes have any feeling for the seniority of MSP as a base? Looking to go to Lakes at the end of this year and just wondering the possibility of MSP so I could live in-base.

End of this year? You're better off asking in October or November. We could base 10 aircraft there with 50+ crews then be out of MSP all together by then end of the year. Hard to say but as of right now, all the crews TDY'd out there are pretty senior because of the continuous per diem. Rumor is it will become an actual base sometime over the summer and will probably have junior and senior crews based there.

IrishFlyer757 03-15-2012 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by ThumperCO (Post 1152567)
End of this year? You're better off asking in October or November. We could base 10 aircraft there with 50+ crews then be out of MSP all together by then end of the year. Hard to say but as of right now, all the crews TDY'd out there are pretty senior because of the continuous per diem. Rumor is it will become an actual base sometime over the summer and will probably have junior and senior crews based there.

Thanks for the info. So you're saying it will probably be a mixed depending on what works for guys? I suppose if you are already planted somewhere why pick up and move...

EMB120IP 03-15-2012 09:01 PM

Surprisingly, some people bid the outstations because they are closer to their home (PHX, LAS, LAX, etc), so some just get into a commuting routine and stick with it. If you have your roots set somewhere and you can find someplace to fly out of that makes it easier to live where you are at, then take it.....like the saying says, "If mama happy....'erebody happy".

2bennySODC6 03-15-2012 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by gearcrankr (Post 1127216)
You drop a deuce in the FO's lunch pail. Then you wipe using part of your

tshirt. True story. It happened when I worked there from 94-97. DIK to DEN.

I can remember a time way back in the day when I almost had to drop a Stanley Steamer in a Captains flight bag. Unfortunately, some A-hole spiked my triple rum and coke with a bunch of pepto bismol the night before. I felt like I was about to explode, however my rectum wouldn't budge. This was extremely painful and I hope that no person has to endure the discomfort I did on that dreadful afternoon. Had I not fallen victim to the whole dropping garbage in other peoples drink movement, I may have had one hell of a story for everyone. It would have been glorious, I can still picture the little midget running off in tears to our CP. :D:D

P.S. The crapper in El Segundo Rules!!!!


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