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#471
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Joined: May 2011
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Srry there JNB, I think these guys are a bit 'in the weeds' about the current topic, this so-called 'news' article. To bring others interested up to speed, this is about their contract. If you dont know it's been about a 3 year battle with NO end in sight. Much worse than RAH if you ask me.
There might have been a vauge hint of the NMB letting Lakes strike in Aug, but then whispers of that not being allowed due to the upcoming presidential election. Now the entire dispute is back to square one, like the last 3 years didn't happen. With a new NMB meeting at the end of this month, the "news" article was put out to help the company's case to keep it's pilots earning less than minumum wage......
Hope that helps.
#472
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 324
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From: Just because the MEL says we can, doesn't mean we should
Srry there JNB, I think these guys are a bit 'in the weeds' about the current topic, this so-called 'news' article. To bring others interested up to speed, this is about their contract. If you dont know it's been about a 3 year battle with NO end in sight. Much worse than RAH if you ask me.
There might have been a vauge hint of the NMB letting Lakes strike in Aug, but then whispers of that not being allowed due to the upcoming presidential election. Now the entire dispute is back to square one, like the last 3 years didn't happen. With a new NMB meeting at the end of this month, the "news" article was put out to help the company's case to keep it's pilots earning less than minumum wage......
Hope that helps.
There might have been a vauge hint of the NMB letting Lakes strike in Aug, but then whispers of that not being allowed due to the upcoming presidential election. Now the entire dispute is back to square one, like the last 3 years didn't happen. With a new NMB meeting at the end of this month, the "news" article was put out to help the company's case to keep it's pilots earning less than minumum wage......
Hope that helps.
#473
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2013
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I remember flight training at GLA in '97...lots of coughing on company frequency. The next day: massive sickout and consequential mass-firings. Got the contract done soon after, with 100% re-hiring and expungement of discipline.
#474
I would agree with you in principle, but if you look at the overall national budget, the money spent on EAS is extremely small. Inefficient? Yes, but the sequester and EAS money with it is just politics. If you want to discuss economics alone, this conversation can be expanded to include Social Security, WIC, unemployment benefits, etc.
#475
On Reserve
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 25
Srry there JNB, I think these guys are a bit 'in the weeds' about the current topic, this so-called 'news' article. To bring others interested up to speed, this is about their contract. If you dont know it's been about a 3 year battle with NO end in sight. Much worse than RAH if you ask me.
There might have been a vauge hint of the NMB letting Lakes strike in Aug, but then whispers of that not being allowed due to the upcoming presidential election. Now the entire dispute is back to square one, like the last 3 years didn't happen. With a new NMB meeting at the end of this month, the "news" article was put out to help the company's case to keep it's pilots earning less than minumum wage......
Hope that helps.
There might have been a vauge hint of the NMB letting Lakes strike in Aug, but then whispers of that not being allowed due to the upcoming presidential election. Now the entire dispute is back to square one, like the last 3 years didn't happen. With a new NMB meeting at the end of this month, the "news" article was put out to help the company's case to keep it's pilots earning less than minumum wage......
Hope that helps.
Hopefully the NMB will consider these numbers before allowing things to continue to string along:
$7.25 (minimum wage) X 40 (hours a week) X 52 (weeks a year) = $15,080. Annual minimum wage income at 40 hours a week.
$16.24 (First Year F/O pay) X 75 (hours garuntee) X 12 (months a year) = $14,616 ($464 less than minimum wage) First Year First Officer Pay.
21 days of Reserve a month at 14 hours a day is 294 duty hours. $1,218 montly income ($16.24 X 75 hours) Divided by 294 duty hours is $4.14 an hour.
Or maybe they'll just let things string along year after year while the cost of living continues to go up.
#476
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Joined: Jun 2011
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They were filling classes with false promises of 90 hours a month of flying. Mathematically it was possible for the new hires to hit 1500, but the reality is they spend 3 months on reserve with 5 hours a month of flying. Unless you're buddy buddy with scheduling and they give you flying, but there is no rhyme or reason for who flies and who doesn't. It's merely at the company's discretion.
I have flown with many new hires in the past 6 months and asked where their total time was at. Answer: "Oh, like 700, but I'm going to fly 90 hours a month and be ok!"
Response: "Enjoy paying $7,500 for your contract when they fire you because you are no longer qualified to operate 121."
Answer:".....uh-oh"
I have flown with many new hires in the past 6 months and asked where their total time was at. Answer: "Oh, like 700, but I'm going to fly 90 hours a month and be ok!"
Response: "Enjoy paying $7,500 for your contract when they fire you because you are no longer qualified to operate 121."
Answer:".....uh-oh"
#477
Maybe management can lease a fleet of IFR certified Cessna 150s. File instrument flight plans, have a second pilot as a 'safety pilot', and fly around in circles until everybody is legal.
#478
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 254
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#480
Yeah, I know. I was bummed when I heard about it too.
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