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Old 01-14-2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lalo37
DONT do this!!!! This is annoying as hell! I had an FO that would talk her way through everything as if she was still instructing....."Okay i'm bringing the power back, okay trimming it up, okay adding power, okay i'm going to raise the nose and slow it down so we can configure"


I DONT CARE what you are doing, just fly the plane the way the company tells us to and we'll be fine. One of the most annoying FO's I have EVER flown with.
This technique is only to be used with aforementioned irritating micromanaging captain...comprende? He obviously can't just fly the plane...that's why he posted his problem on this board. Read. Breathe. Repeat.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 03:38 PM
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Sounds like a long month!

After you do an honest self-assessment and address the "is it me question" [and figure you can fly], I'd ask him point blank if he thought you had a problem flying the airplane.

Pro-Stan could be a solution but only after you confront him in the most constructive way you can about his flying lessons.

If all else fails, and your only flying with him for a month, reject his offer to fly any of the legs and just be the PNF.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 03:39 PM
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"Okay...I'm using the lavatory now.....I hope there is enough TP....."
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Old 01-14-2008 | 04:18 PM
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Pro Standards.

In lieu of that, call in sick...of his sh!t.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:25 PM
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The bottom line is this is more than just irritating. He is having a negative impact on the safety of the flight by not allowing you to do the job you were trained to do. There is no doubt he is not good enough to do your job and his, but that is what he is trying to do. Calmly and assertively tell him, "Look, I know you think you are helping me but you are not. Your comments are a major distraction and keeping me from performing the job as I was trained. Unless it is an immediate safety issue, let me fly, and if you feel the need, critique me AFTER we are parked at the gate." Do your best to fly by the book and the way you were trained. Remind him of this and tell him if he has a problem with that, take it up with your training department.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:49 PM
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Smack him in the face.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 06:03 PM
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I gotta say even the most micromanaging captains I've ever flown with were not as bad as you're describing. You're best bet is to talk to him first. Tell him that while you respect his experience, you are an experienced crew member as well and that the things he is doing are having a negative impact on your ability to operate as a required crew member. If this still doesn't work, pro standards is the next step. Good luck...
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Old 01-14-2008 | 06:31 PM
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You can always hand fly it raw data on your short flights, do that fine, and he should chill out.

I usually say something to give the nfp a heads up on what im doing for anything out of the ordanary i.e. I tell them Im slowing at fl240 because we are mostlikely to get slam dunked...

Sounds like a fun month!
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Old 01-14-2008 | 06:31 PM
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It's pretty simple, just think of it like in The High and the Mighty. YOU are John Wayne, the CA is Robert Stack. If that doesn't work, then do what FFB says.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 06:51 PM
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I flew with one of those just the other day. I kinda made a joke out of it and called him "Captain Micro" a few times. When he asked why I called him that I told him it was because he micro manages too much. I don't fly like him so either fly the legs or let me fly. I'm not just some voice activated autopilot system. The rest of the 4 day anytime he'd start micromanaging I'd just call him captain micro and he'd back off. He'd say something like "well I don't really care but there are other captains who do and they'll snap at you". I wouldn't respond back to that but in the back of my mind I'd be thinking that if there is I sure haven't met him or anyone close.

Ever notice how a CA always uses the "To me it's no big deal... but.."

For your situation I advise to call him Capt. Micro, avoid his employee number, or simply say that you aren't challenging his authority you're flying the plane how you'd like to and unless he can show you where you're doing something wrong then you'll keep doing it. Tell him he's f'ing with your mojo and making you fly like crap because you're having to focus on him more than the aircraft and the situation at hand.\

Then wait till he's making a bad landing and ask the tower for lower lol.
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