How to deal with a control freak?
01-14-2008 | 07:24 PM
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Your avatar compliments this comment nicely!
Me personally, I would just say nothing until I couldn't stand it anymore or the safety of the flight was being impacted, and we'd go from there.
01-14-2008 | 07:33 PM
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From: Fixed wing, left
01-14-2008 | 07:45 PM
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I've been here for a little over two years. I do my standard call outs(i have no problem with that)fly the profile, but I also understand when to fly a bit fast to the marker when there is a larger aircraft behind me and fly a dot high, slow down early when following a heavy, or maybe even extend the gear, configure early when cleared for a visual when high! I can suck it up and not cry about it, it's just annoying when you have someone b*tching at you all the way down! What is this, private pilot lesson #1?
Thanks, I appreciate all the suggestions and comments...
Thanks, I appreciate all the suggestions and comments...
01-14-2008 | 07:48 PM
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If I'm following a triple, I'm sure not flying the same glideslope as them. Something about wake, or vortices...turbulence...turn me upside down...
01-14-2008 | 08:45 PM
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Wow. You've got a sh_tty situation there. One of the nice things about being at a more mature airline is you don't see this much. Everyone is very experienced and a guy like that gets exposed pretty quickly. He would end up on most FO's no fly list and the CP would probably look in to it.
If I every fly with someone like that I give them the airplane. I'm perfectly happy to sit there and do my job. If he won't shut up I put in ear plugs and turn my head. Someone one else mentioned it, just punch up the other autopilot and say, "you've got it." If you want to rub it in you could point out everything he's about to do a little early. That would be fun. "You're going to turn here in a second." " OK now turn." Not too much!" "OK, level out.....NOW." I think he'd get the message. If not, it would be worth it just to see him blow his stack. Don't worry about him going to the CP on you. If he is as bad as you say, the CP is well aware of this tool
Good luck.
If I every fly with someone like that I give them the airplane. I'm perfectly happy to sit there and do my job. If he won't shut up I put in ear plugs and turn my head. Someone one else mentioned it, just punch up the other autopilot and say, "you've got it." If you want to rub it in you could point out everything he's about to do a little early. That would be fun. "You're going to turn here in a second." " OK now turn." Not too much!" "OK, level out.....NOW." I think he'd get the message. If not, it would be worth it just to see him blow his stack. Don't worry about him going to the CP on you. If he is as bad as you say, the CP is well aware of this tool
Good luck.
01-14-2008 | 08:57 PM
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Its funny how when a captain does this you really begin to second guess yourself. I had the same type of captain my last 4 day, and I was loosing my MIND. I never said anything, too scared, im on probation, but i really started to second guess myself and think "maybe i am horrible" I flew today with a normal captain and he was like great job, but the whole time I kept expecting him to yell at me like the previous one did..... That is the first time Ive expereinced it...drove me NUTS
01-14-2008 | 10:50 PM
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as far as flying a dot high not being a good idea, Im gonna have to disagree with you here! It only takes one time, I learned my lesson real fast about avoiding wake! I will not definately fly the same glidepath behind a 767 or any larger ac, even any wake from 737s.
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01-15-2008 | 04:51 AM
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Ok, I am flying with a control freak for a captain. During my legs, he wants me to climb out the way he wants to climb out. During approaches, he tells me when to turn, descend(when/rate), when to extend flaps and gears, and when to pull the power back during touchdown.( I m pretty sure that’s a run-on sentence). He is doing this constantly, I don’t mind it during the climb out but during an approach it’s very annoying. I begin to second guess myself because I know he will start to say something. So I try flying it by how I think “he” wants it done(bad idea), I get the same results! It’s either Im extending the gears/flaps too far out or too late! (He also tells me how to do the PNF flows) So I told him that it’s fine if I no longer do the PF duties for the rest of the month to be safe, he replied back with “are you challenging/questioning my experience!!!!! I have flown with different captains, and once with an FAA onboard in the front with no complaints, how do I deal with this guy for the rest of the month!
Oh, yeah… one more thing, he tells me to set up for the next control frequency on stand by so it’s ready. I just looked at him! RANT OVER!
Oh, yeah… one more thing, he tells me to set up for the next control frequency on stand by so it’s ready. I just looked at him! RANT OVER!
together and he said "my airplane" on the rollout, the angels sang:HALLELUJAH!
I'm so glad that captain lines come out before FO lines so I don't ever have to fly with him again.
BTW, I wussed out, I never really said anything to him, I just let my blood pressure go up the entire trip.
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