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Idiot... I came on with 900 tt and 8 hours multi. Was told I did very nicely in the sim and was ready to be signed off well before minimum IOE time. Never killed anyone, never blew on any tires on landing, never froze up on a go around and never once felt overwhelmed. I think your just a bit mad that perhaps you never had the opportunity to fly something like an RJ with low time. Sorry for the rant but people with attitudes like this really rub me the wrong way.
Originally Posted by DMEarc
(Post 321442)
38 Multi.....8 Multi....
You guys don't belong in a Seminole , let alone an automated RJ. Good thing you're not going to fly a turboprop- you would probably kill everyone onboard. |
Originally Posted by ksatflyer
(Post 478981)
Idiot... I came on with 900 tt and 8 hours multi. Was told I did very nicely in the sim and was ready to be signed off well before minimum IOE time. Never killed anyone, never blew on any tires on landing, never froze up on a go around and never once felt overwhelmed. I think your just a bit mad that perhaps you never had the opportunity to fly something like an RJ with low time. Sorry for the rant but people with attitudes like this really rub me the wrong way.
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I have to agree with DMEarc. While it is no doubt impressive that you were so successful in the simulator, that does not diminish the reality that you lack multi-engine experience -- much less multi-engine experience in high performance turbojet aircraft.
The ability to succeed in training is one thing -- the experience required to be a valuable and participating crewmember are quite another. The unfortunate reality is that by hiring such low time pilots the industry is requiring Captains to be much more than simply mentors -- but in many cases we are requiring them to be flight instructors. Part 121 operations with paying passengers is no time for "dual given". Sorry. |
Originally Posted by ksatflyer
(Post 478981)
Idiot... I came on with 900 tt and 8 hours multi. Was told I did very nicely in the sim and was ready to be signed off well before minimum IOE time. Never killed anyone, never blew on any tires on landing, never froze up on a go around and never once felt overwhelmed. I think your just a bit mad that perhaps you never had the opportunity to fly something like an RJ with low time. Sorry for the rant but people with attitudes like this really rub me the wrong way.
Name calling. nice and professional. |
I'm just amused by ZapBrannigan's avatar. Dr.Horrible was a great 40 minute show. everyone should forget about name calling and go watch it.
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Hey I will admit that the 38 multi I had was low.
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
(Post 478997)
I have to agree with DMEarc. While it is no doubt impressive that you were so successful in the simulator, that does not diminish the reality that you lack multi-engine experience -- much less multi-engine experience in high performance turbojet aircraft.
The ability to succeed in training is one thing -- the experience required to be a valuable and participating crewmember are quite another. The unfortunate reality is that by hiring such low time pilots the industry is requiring Captains to be much more than simply mentors -- but in many cases we are requiring them to be flight instructors. Part 121 operations with paying passengers is no time for "dual given". Sorry. |
I appreciate your thoughtful and respectful answer but my opinion has not been swayed. While a Captain should, indeed, be a MENTOR -- he or she should NOT have to be a "flight instructor".
There is a big difference. I stand by my assertion that part 121 with paying passengers is no place for flight instruction. (IOE being the one notable exception). |
I think we agree in principle actually but that has been overshadowed by semantics. Would you not agree that that appropriate position for a Captain to be willing to accept should be about halfway between Flight instructor and simple mentor? Flight instructor being "right rudder, right rudder, right rudder", mentor being "I wouldn't bid for that line if I were you.."
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