But you do not mention or discount the weakest link: the human.

Check pg 110

HaH!! You nearly got beer nose on that one....

@ Deadstick...I get the weakest link point...but I also realize the statistical likelihood of an incident severe enough to lead to a passenger fatality or injury is astronomically low. A list of things a mile long would all have to go wrong at the same time to lead to the remote chance of a pilot error significant enough to cause a crash that would not have happened with high time pilots at the controls instead. I got no issue with low time guys/gals flying me or my loved ones...my issue is when they do it for $19 an hour...now that's an accident waiting to happen...

I was wondering how long it would take for the military card to be played. de727ups got it right. If ERAU or AllATPs scrutinized their students at the same level as the US military, then they would have 5% of the students that they do now, and the cost would be much more than the $70-whatever grand. Just because you can write the check, it doesn't mean you can fly the plane. Those schools make more money off the substandard students. The substandard students fly a desk in the military. As a tax payer, I expect to get my money's worth.

FWIW, the truck driving school brochures were at the door of our tactics training room. That was motivation.

If they met you in a dark alley -- it would be a shame if they had an "accident"?

That kind of accident?

So how many crashes have their been with low time inexperienced RJ crews? Just curious?

You must work for the FAA. Wait until there is blood to correct bad policy huh?

I do agree that complacency with experience can be just as dangerous as plain ol' inexperience. But at least there is a base of knowledge there that CAN be tapped.

Who do we point the finger at? The traveling public looking to save $1 on travelocity? The majors for requiring 1000TPIC and, therefore, making regional time a necessity? The Regionals for trying to get a warm body in the seat for as little $$ as possible? The insurance companies willing to let carriers fly low time pilots or risk losing the business? Or the pilot for willing to take the low pay for a shot at a JET. I'd say the pilots deserve the least. I mean if you take an alcoholic to a bar and offer to buy a round-- that is just not nice.

Congrats, this thread has gone from simple q & a to bashing ERAU and ALL ATPS and the like...well done yet again guys

I dunno but I want some more Dr.Horrible quotes....

More pilots need to start texting while taxiing across active runways after 12 hours of duty time. Not really, but this train thing and the duty rules that came out of it really rubbed me the wrong way. Reactionary policy changes are the only way to go unless you want to take a chance that you might never see the results that justify the change. F-ing bureaucrats.