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Old 01-24-2008 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
The differences is pretty laid back. I was on the 200 for a bit when I went to the 700 they just give you a few days of ground class, a few days of sim training and then a little SOE to finish up. Then they finally get around to creating a line for you which is mutually agreed upon. It takes about a month to finish all the training. I hear all sorts of estimates as to the length of reserve. Guys quote anywhere between 4-10 months as an FO. Of course you hear otherwise on this forum which are guys who heard it from someone else and so on. For now I'll just go on what an actual 700 FO told ME.

As far as QOL it all depends on whether you like reserve or want a line. That's totally preference of course. When you hold a line you fly all the hours you get paid for but you accrue time faster for upgrade and it's easier to commute. Of course I would like to get my hours building much faster but right now on first year pay it's kind of helpful to be able to do a little work on the side to offset some living costs.

The way I see it: on reserve you get your 75 hour guarantee (75X23= 1725) and I only fly about 40 hours a month so basically it's kind if like 1725/40=43hr. And during my free time I work out of the house and the local area for another 40hrs a month at a significantly greater rate/hour than my normal pay. So I could hold a line and actually work 85-90 hours at 23/hour or I can work 80hrs a month and get paid for 115hrs (75+40). Just something for now. And FYI I don't have to commute and only live about 25mins from the airport in which I can just take the train so reserve isn't bad at all. All in all that's really the only difference between the 700 and the 200 besides the better overnights on the 700 and the thing is a lot funner to fly. But then again who flies for fun anymore
Heh...you said "funner"
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Old 01-24-2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Heh...you said "funner"
Yeah, I suppose the correct terminology should be "more funner".
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Old 01-24-2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
The differences is pretty laid back. I was on the 200 for a bit when I went to the 700 they just give you a few days of ground class, a few days of sim training and then a little SOE to finish up. Then they finally get around to creating a line for you which is mutually agreed upon. It takes about a month to finish all the training. I hear all sorts of estimates as to the length of reserve. Guys quote anywhere between 4-10 months as an FO. Of course you hear otherwise on this forum which are guys who heard it from someone else and so on. For now I'll just go on what an actual 700 FO told ME.

As far as QOL it all depends on whether you like reserve or want a line. That's totally preference of course. When you hold a line you fly all the hours you get paid for but you accrue time faster for upgrade and it's easier to commute. Of course I would like to get my hours building much faster but right now on first year pay it's kind of helpful to be able to do a little work on the side to offset some living costs.

The way I see it: on reserve you get your 75 hour guarantee (75X23= 1725) and I only fly about 40 hours a month so basically it's kind if like 1725/40=43hr. And during my free time I work out of the house and the local area for another 40hrs a month at a significantly greater rate/hour than my normal pay. So I could hold a line and actually work 85-90 hours at 23/hour or I can work 80hrs a month and get paid for 115hrs (75+40). Just something for now. And FYI I don't have to commute and only live about 25mins from the airport in which I can just take the train so reserve isn't bad at all. All in all that's really the only difference between the 700 and the 200 besides the better overnights on the 700 and the thing is a lot funner to fly. But then again who flies for fun anymore
You don't need to go off on what anybody told you. Just go to ourasa.com and look at the 700 roster and the junior lineholder's seniority number. Its 13 months right now.
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Old 01-24-2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
It may not go too senior if the pay is the same as the 700.
If I remember correctly your contract dictates that the CR9's will be flown for the same rate as the CR7's due to the number of seats and your seat range. If so then your CR9 pilots won’t be separated from the CR7 pilots like they are now from the CR2 pilots. So a CR7 pilot could have a trip where he constantly moves between the two a/c on longer turns. This would dramatically improve CR7 pilot’s lines due to the fact that you have more routes and a/c with the CR9 added to there rotation.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but this is how my friend at ASA explained it.

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Old 01-24-2008 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
If I remember correctly your contract dictates that the CR9's will be flown for the same rate as the CR7's due to the number of seats and your seat range. If so then your CR9 pilots won’t be separated from the CR7 pilots like they are now from the CR2 pilots. So a CR7 pilot could have a trip where he constantly moves between the two a/c on longer turns. This would dramatically improve CR7 pilot’s lines due to the fact that you have more routes and a/c with the CR9 added to their rotation.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but this is how my friend at ASA explained it.
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Old 01-24-2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
You don't need to go off on what anybody told you. Just go to ourasa.com and look at the 700 roster and the junior lineholder's seniority number. Its 13 months right now.

Where on ourasa do you see that? I'm still fishing for it
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Old 01-24-2008 | 01:14 PM
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go to documents, forms, crew members
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Old 01-24-2008 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
You don't need to go off on what anybody told you. Just go to ourasa.com and look at the 700 roster and the junior lineholder's seniority number. Its 13 months right now.
Good point............but correct me if I'm wrong, that list changes almost daily if you think about it. One month lots of 700 FO's are upgrading to 200 CP's and 3/4 of the new hire class was dumped into the 700 initially. The next month a whole bunch of FO's are coming over from the 200 and no one in the newhire class was assigned. I think it is the aircraft that sees the most movement so it's really hard to say what the reserve time is going to be when you get assigned to the aircraft. Reserve time depending on your seniority really varies unlike the 50 seater where it's pretty consistent for the time being. Just an observation on my part, other people may see it differently.
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Old 01-24-2008 | 04:56 PM
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Im on the 200 and this was my 2nd month bidding, they built me a line so no more reserve for me which is great....I guess w no relief lines they just build u a schedule if u ask for it....
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Old 01-25-2008 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mregan
Im on the 200 and this was my 2nd month bidding, they built me a line so no more reserve for me which is great....I guess w no relief lines they just build u a schedule if u ask for it....
Man, must be nice... been on and off reserve since August. I'd like to know how you pulled that off... So much for seniority... (btw for those of you claiming reserve is under three months on the 200 at ASA it is a bit longer than that)
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