Didn't you know? SAAB is not only an expert on Colgan, XJet, airline unions, but contract law as well. You will be fine in life if your source is the guy with the monkey picture, "Saab's sister said it was ok."

 

I'd like to know if its possible to have a Colgan thread WITHOUT Saab giving his 2 cents? We all know how he feels, but some people would still like to get some accurate information. As for the contract, the only good answer is to consult a lawyer. That's just MY 2 cents.

 

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh if its from me, its accurate, accurate to my experience anyway. I have said it before everyone's situation is different, but mine blew...............

99.9% of those that are at COLGAN have never been anywhere else so when they say Colgan is good, well what do they have to compare it to? Yes there are guys that go from Colgan to CAL and all the other "Major" airlines, but it had more to do with who they knew then the 1,000's of hours of PIC time they had, believe me I talk to guys with a lot, and I mean a lot of TURBO-PROP & TURBO-JET time that can't get an interview

 

Unlike the majority of XJet FO's which years of 121 experience when they apply to XJet.

We be just some dumb ignint Colgan FO's who dont know how bads we got it. I can not waits till I gets enuf hours to go to XJet and be a reel pilut.

 

Fact: Colgan does not pay very well. As a result, yes, they have to work harder to get pilots. To get pilots, they have two choices:
(1) hire a zillion people and let half of them fail (and walk away with a failed checkride on record) or
(2) bring in some folks that are low time and give them an introduction to 121 training and some time in the sims and see how they do. If the work out, fine; if not, no harm, no foul, and NO busted checkride on record.

This is no better or worse than the companies that have lower minimums for people that go through the jet transition training. Good for the industry? I don't know. Better for the potential new hire? Heck YES! He doesn't have to shell out a bunch of money and has no risk of a failure.


RE: the validity of the training contract...

Yes, one can get out of nearly any contract if he/she is willing to out lawyer/spend the opposition.

Saab, it says something about your character to hear you telling everybody how they can screw a potential employer.

Would I break a training contract? No. If the dream job came along tomorrow, I would take it AND repay the remaining balance on the contract.... Because I don't want to be an immoral jerk.

 

LOL

George, tell me about the rabbits again, George. And XJet George... tell me about all those pretty jets.... We will fly up in the air George and play with the rabbits

((for those who missed it, see Of Mice and Men

 

ignorant yes.....................but you forget naive............. You type like Chuckie Colgan speaks

Lets face it, most of you don't really care how bad you have it, because what does it matter, you'll upgrade in a year and be at CAL in no time

 

I think that program is a good idea their going to be hiring low time pilots anyway like all the other regionals so whynot give them some extra training to make sure they are airline material

 

You want to talk about Character & morals??????????????

Very moral of them to take us to hotels 1.5 hrs away from LGA to save a buck. (you think 8hrs is enough rest in that case?)
Very moral of them to threaten to fire me because I would not accept an illegal trip.
Very, very moral of them to short me pay as well
They were very moral when it came to Lou C as well, you remember that one?
The list goes on and on and on............


If they had treated me with dignity and respect and treated me like a human being rather then a slave, maybe I would have showed them some respect in return. I gave them two weeks and I am still waiting for my last pay check.........

 

I for one had a pretty good idea of what I was getting into. And like bootcamp and the military, it ain't easy or sexy. But for some of us, it works. We do our time and move on.

So please quit telling us how we have signed ourselves up for indentured servitude and that the Messiah is elsewhere.

And I still question your character.