Oil prices peaked
#41
California is the world's 5th largest economy because the rest of the world subsidizes California b/c of the movie biz. How much TV and Feature film comes from Cali compared to the rest of the world. How much money do you spend at the movie theater and how much of that goes back to Cali instead of your home state. Furthermore, California may be the 5th largest economy but it is also neck deep in debt.
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The entire nation would be so much better off if they accepted the "California view." If that happened, then 35% of our power would come from renewable energy (wind, hydro, solar) instead of more than 90% fossil fuels (which is where the rest of the nation gets its power from.)
Part of the reason why people are so protective of the environment in California is we have some of the best environment in the entire world. People who have lived here long enough realize we cannot just destroy the environement, because if we don't it will "harm the economy." I would much rather pay 1 cent per kilowatt hour more than the national average for my electricity to have some of the best environment in the world protected.
And besides, our strict environmental policies have done so much to harm our economy [/SARCASM] By itself, California is the WORLD'S 5th largest economy. Do you ever wonder why property value is so expensive in California? Because we take care of our environment.
Part of the reason why people are so protective of the environment in California is we have some of the best environment in the entire world. People who have lived here long enough realize we cannot just destroy the environement, because if we don't it will "harm the economy." I would much rather pay 1 cent per kilowatt hour more than the national average for my electricity to have some of the best environment in the world protected.
And besides, our strict environmental policies have done so much to harm our economy [/SARCASM] By itself, California is the WORLD'S 5th largest economy. Do you ever wonder why property value is so expensive in California? Because we take care of our environment.
It's precisely socialist policy like this that made me leave my native Norway in search of the American dream and now we have it gaining popularity in America
These leftist policies have propelled thousands of people to leave California to go live in the middle of the Arizona/Nevade desert in search of greater QOL. Califonia is so restrictive/expensive for business, labor regulations, workers comp, state payroll tax, court system that it has driven thousands of small/medium firms to leave.
EAHINC
#43
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A962958260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
Last time I checked Toyota and Honda produce more cars here and employ more people in the United States then the Detroit three. If I remember correctly Ford is made in Mexico and GMC is in Canada and Mexico.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
Last time I checked Toyota and Honda produce more cars here and employ more people in the United States then the Detroit three. If I remember correctly Ford is made in Mexico and GMC is in Canada and Mexico.
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From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat

I don't have any answers as to the future of oil prices, if I did I would be drinking on my yacht instead of typing. There is one absolute truth though-free markets will keep energy flowing and react faster than any deadbeat politician can clear his throat and ask for a steering commitee to undertake a decades long study of what we should do.
Update on MMGW and Manbearpig-it is looking like they gave the Nobel to the wrong guy, but lawfirms are having a field day billing $700 an hour for environmental studies and people buying "carbon credits" from themselves are doing OK too.
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From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
You obviously don't own a home, run a business or earn very much salary to be willing to pay an additional 1 cent per kilowatt. I guess my vote will cancel out your vote...
It's precisely socialist policy like this that made me leave my native Norway in search of the American dream and now we have it gaining popularity in America
These leftist policies have propelled thousands of people to leave California to go live in the middle of the Arizona/Nevade desert in search of greater QOL.
Califonia is so restrictive/expensive for business, labor regulations, workers comp, state payroll tax, court system that it has driven thousands of small/medium firms to leave.
EAHINC
It's precisely socialist policy like this that made me leave my native Norway in search of the American dream and now we have it gaining popularity in America
These leftist policies have propelled thousands of people to leave California to go live in the middle of the Arizona/Nevade desert in search of greater QOL. Califonia is so restrictive/expensive for business, labor regulations, workers comp, state payroll tax, court system that it has driven thousands of small/medium firms to leave.
EAHINC
Economic reality is a distant and unexplored planet for many.
#46
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A962958260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
Last time I checked Toyota and Honda produce more cars here and employ more people in the United States then the Detroit three. If I remember correctly Ford is made in Mexico and GMC is in Canada and Mexico.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
Last time I checked Toyota and Honda produce more cars here and employ more people in the United States then the Detroit three. If I remember correctly Ford is made in Mexico and GMC is in Canada and Mexico.
#49
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A962958260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
Last time I checked Toyota and Honda produce more cars here and employ more people in the United States then the Detroit three. If I remember correctly Ford is made in Mexico and GMC is in Canada and Mexico.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
Last time I checked Toyota and Honda produce more cars here and employ more people in the United States then the Detroit three. If I remember correctly Ford is made in Mexico and GMC is in Canada and Mexico.
Last edited by Dark Knight; 01-29-2008 at 07:41 PM. Reason: spelling
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From: Sabre 60
So why can't the rest of the United States follow our lead? I think it is perfectly realistic. If we did it, why can't you?
Originally Posted by Dark Knight
California is the world's 5th largest economy because the rest of the world subsidizes California b/c of the movie biz.
- Nevermind the fact that the Silicon Valley is the technology capital of the world.
- Nevermind the fact that the Central Valley produces more fruit and vegetables than any other place on earth
- Nevermind the fact that California is the biotechnology capital of the US
- Nevermind the fact that several of the world's largest corporations call California home... (Google, Apple, Chevron, Sun Microsystems, Franklin Templeton, and Oracle world headquarters are all within 30 miles of my house)

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