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saabguy493 02-09-2008 01:20 PM

ok
 
no envy here
lol

Inside DEENA 02-09-2008 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Go Ugly Early (Post 316830)
Air Wisconsin flying? The flying was United's and Air Wisconsin lost the contract. Simple as that. No regional has their own flying. 90 percent of the regionals wouldn't even be in business if it weren't for the majors they get in bed with. Why is Air Wisconsin flying the same number of airplanes for USAir that they were flying for United?

How exactly did SkyWest put Skyway out of business in less than one year of flying for Midwest? Skyway was not making bundles of money flying 16 airplanes or they would have expanded. Ask yourself why Midwest/Skyway (same thing really) didn't buy CRJ's or ERJ's and fly them. The airplanes have been around for 15 years. How is a company with 11000 employees and significantly higher operating costs and pay that is higher in many other departments (such as mx) somehow cheaper than a company with fewer than 500 employees?

Midwest/Skyway management put Skyway out of business with their inability/reluctance to expand them. Simple as that. Why were they never given more or larger airplanes? Midwest/Skyway management put Skyway out of business just as Kerry Skeen put ACA out of business and Geoff Crowley lost Air Wisconsin's United flying.

OK, where to start with this one? All UAL flying? Hardly. AWAC had been doing most of those routes, at least out of ORD, since before UAL bought them (in 1993) to get the ROUTES and the LANDING SLOTS at ORD. And was doing that flying under our OWN TICKET STOCK AND RESERVATIONS, not UAL's. So that flying was, in fact, ours. As to why we are flying 70 CRJ200's for US, because AWAC NEGOTIATED to fly 70 CRJ200's for US, that's why. Re: 70+ seat airframes, we as a pilot group were asked to match your pathetic 50-90 for 50 seat rate, which we refused to do.

Oh, you are right about one thing. Crowley was/is a screw up!;)

I can't speak to the rest of you post, don't have any direct knowledge of those situations.

Don't for a minute think though that the actions of the Skywest pilot group don't have an effect on other pilot groups. Your failure to accept a real raise, when your company is so profitable, or at least a decent COLA increase, will have an effect on any other carrier trying to negotiate a better contract in the near future.

Peace.

ID

PS. To answer the original question, no, don't envy SKW for even 1 second.

NightIP 02-09-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 317466)
So in recap, no XJT bashing, just a bunch of over reacting. Much like your post above.

Actually, I was simply prompting Superpilot92 to post the picture of the W-T-F bus. :(

I know your thoughts on Branded already. No need to recap them. Just remember that your thoughts aren't typical of those actually in the know around this company.

flybywire44 02-09-2008 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by saabguy493 (Post 317525)
no envy here
lol

Nor here.... hah

flyinaway411 02-09-2008 07:09 PM

most are arrogant, especially on here. no envy here...

nor respect either for that matter

Go Ugly Early 02-09-2008 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Inside DEENA (Post 317666)
OK, where to start with this one? All UAL flying? Hardly. AWAC had been doing most of those routes, at least out of ORD, since before UAL bought them (in 1993) to get the ROUTES and the LANDING SLOTS at ORD. And was doing that flying under our OWN TICKET STOCK AND RESERVATIONS, not UAL's.

Regardless of how Air Wisc got their start, none of the flying they were doing prior to doing business with US was on their on nickel with their own branded flying. They had replaced UA mainline on many routes and were flying exclusively as a UAX carrier. That said, they did get screwed by United with the 1993 transaction you mention.

Go Ugly Early 02-09-2008 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 317358)
Okay, I'll bite. Do you work for XJT, or are you just a saturday morning quarterback? :D


No. Just another schmuck who is benefiting from the money my company makes primarily from fee for departure contracts. I am also realistic enough to realize that it's only a matter of time before our major partners ask for contracts to be negotiated or more airplanes are removed from the inventory.

XJT may have the last laugh when they have airplanes flying around making money when then the rest of us are parking stuff.

ExperimentalAB 02-09-2008 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Go Ugly Early (Post 317736)
No. Just another schmuck who is benefiting from the money my company makes primarily from fee for departure contracts. I am also realistic enough to realize that it's only a matter of time before our major partners ask for contracts to be negotiated or more airplanes are removed from the inventory.

XJT may have the last laugh when they have airplanes flying around making money when then the rest of us are parking stuff.

And that is the truth - with great risks ::can:: come great rewards...

WhiteH2O 02-09-2008 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by saabguy493 (Post 317525)
no envy here
lol

Nor here.

If I did, I would get a job there.


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