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Old 02-04-2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ryguy
Saying it the way you did implies doing something you shouldn't. I legally worked out how to get hundreds of jumpseaters on board, but I never "doctored" anything.

I know what you meant but not everyone one would with the usual connotation of that word. Just saying be careful.
Where I come from, "doctoring" is a commonly and widely used word LoL. Point taken.
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Old 02-04-2008 | 08:08 PM
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Where I come from, "doctoring" is a commonly and widely used word LoL. Point taken.
As in, management is "doctoring" your pay scale? Point taken.
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Old 02-04-2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Actually the regional industry is expected to shrink over the next several years with more flights going to mainline. Retirements are also expected to increase as the baby boomers make their moves. They might have to stay longer than 3yrs but big deal. Currently we are out of the norm with the speed up upgrades/hires. This time extending a little would be things returning back to normal.
I think he is talking about RJs with more than 50 seats. Those should be at mainline. The more of those flown by regionals, the longer it takes for regional pilots to get to the mainline. Personally, I would like to see any jet flown by mainline pilots and leave the regionals to flying 1900s, Saabs, Brasilias, and Dash 8s.
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Old 02-04-2008 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by N2rotation
As in, management is "doctoring" your pay scale? Point taken.
Real clever, buddy
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Old 02-04-2008 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Actually the regional industry is expected to shrink over the next several years with more flights going to mainline. Retirements are also expected to increase as the baby boomers make their moves. They might have to stay longer than 3yrs but big deal. Currently we are out of the norm with the speed up upgrades/hires. This time extending a little would be things returning back to normal.
Oh...so thats what the Big Boys mean when they say "shrinking domestic capacity"

Originally Posted by American Airlines 2006 Annual Report
American's mainline capacity for the full year 2007 is expected to decrease approximately one percent from 2006 with more than a one percent reduction in domestic capacity and less than a one percent decrease in international capacity.
Originally Posted by Delta Airlines 2006 Annual Report
Key iniaitives accomplished by the end of 2006 in the area of revenue and network productivity include:
    Originally Posted by Northwest Airlines 2006 Annual Report
    Right Sizing and re-optimizing its fleet and reducing systemwide capacity by approximately 10% during the first year in bankruptcy (as measured by the 12 months ending September 30, 2006) and my removing a number of mainline and regional aircraft from the Northwest fleet. For the full year 2006, NWA reduced its systemwide consolidated available seat miles by 7.5%.
    Originally Posted by US Airways/America West 2006 Annual Report
    (AWA) mainline capacity, as measured by ASM's, decreased 3.1%.
    ...Express RPMs increased 7.8% as express capacity, as measured by ASMs, increased 2.7%, resulting in a 3.6 point increase in load factor to 75.5%.
    (US Airways) mainline capacity, as measured by ASMs, decreased 7.9%.
    Express RPMs increased by 6.6% as Express capacity, as measured by ASMs, decreased 1.7%, resulting in a 5.4 point increase in load factor to 69.4%.
    I'll believe it when I see it. I think you're gonna see the regionals "shrink" by increasing the size of the aircraft and reducing the number, slowly eating away at the bottom levels of the majors. Mesa and RAH already fly 86 seat "RJs". Thats a DC-9 folks. So yeah...shrinking regionals...I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Old 02-04-2008 | 09:14 PM
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    Originally Posted by Blkflyer
    Honestly not flame just some valid points.. oh and keep the Union Stuff out of it Please...
    Three words; Gouda flavored cheddar. mmm...
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    Old 02-04-2008 | 09:32 PM
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    Originally Posted by ryguy
    Saying it the way you did implies doing something you shouldn't. I legally worked out how to get hundreds of jumpseaters on board, but I never "doctored" anything.

    I know what you meant but not everyone one would with the usual connotation of that word. Just saying be careful.
    ryguy, im sure your familiar with operations in places such as Hong Kong, and how they regularly lie about our cargo loads. 40 lbs is nothing compared to those a-holes on the ground who sneak on an extra 10,000 to 20,000 lbs of freight and fudge the numbers on us. if youre upset about taking an extra jumpseater, think about that next time you see your w/b on your 747.
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    Old 02-05-2008 | 03:33 AM
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    Envy Skywest? I think not. Where do these notions come from?
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    Old 02-05-2008 | 04:19 AM
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    Originally Posted by Foxcow
    Envy Skywest? I think not. Where do these notions come from?
    Agree. When Skywest has a thread with over 2000 replies and 145,000 views, we can say folks are paying attention to them.
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    Old 02-05-2008 | 04:27 AM
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    Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
    Agree. When Skywest has a thread with over 2000 replies and 145,000 views, we can say folks are paying attention to them.


    I agree that we should all pay attention to them because they are one of the larger regionals. Example: how that craptastic excuse for a pay proposal that passed and how its going to affect other people other than them. I know managements in the industry sure as hell were paying attention to that one.
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