Why do People from other regionals Envy Skywest
02-05-2008 | 09:45 AM
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Well, at least there's that UNION contract guaranteeing your crappy wages. Oh wait, can you even show me your UNION contract that guarantees your crappy wages?
You go, girl !!!
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02-05-2008 | 11:49 AM
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ryguy, im sure your familiar with operations in places such as Hong Kong, and how they regularly lie about our cargo loads. 40 lbs is nothing compared to those a-holes on the ground who sneak on an extra 10,000 to 20,000 lbs of freight and fudge the numbers on us. if youre upset about taking an extra jumpseater, think about that next time you see your w/b on your 747.
02-05-2008 | 12:57 PM
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Ya, we skipped the middleman, and went straight to the wholesaler.
As to crappy wages at SkyWest, I think most of us here know that's not the case when we look at our W2's at the end of the year, compared to other regionals.
I would argue, however, that the industry as a whole is woefully underpaid, and whether union A, B, or C, or no union at all, it still is sad. Don't see that changing any time soon.
02-05-2008 | 01:03 PM
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Ya, we skipped the middleman, and went straight to the wholesaler.
As to crappy wages at SkyWest, I think most of us here know that's not the case when we look at our W2's at the end of the year, compared to other regionals.
I would argue, however, that the industry as a whole is woefully underpaid, and whether union A, B, or C, or no union at all, it still is sad. Don't see that changing any time soon.
As to crappy wages at SkyWest, I think most of us here know that's not the case when we look at our W2's at the end of the year, compared to other regionals.
I would argue, however, that the industry as a whole is woefully underpaid, and whether union A, B, or C, or no union at all, it still is sad. Don't see that changing any time soon.
Think about this, how long did it take your mgmt team to sue DAL for not paying up? The did immediately, why is it that your mgmt team will fight for what they deserve but your pilot group wont? Think about it.
02-05-2008 | 01:12 PM
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Even amongst the various unions that represent air carrier pilots, there's not unity; e.g., APA was vehemently against age 65, ALPA (after flip flopping) for it.
ALPA would have had a much better chance at SkyWest if they had their own house in order. And I do think that an in house union has a better chance than ALPA did, but I don't see that unifying pilots any more than APA, SWAPA, Teamsters, and ALPA are unified.
But, doesn't it get old belaboring union BS ? The vote is over, but they'll be another in 4 or 5 years, I GUARANTEE that. There'll be too many future 1.95% to pass up that attempt again, even if it does take a $5.3 million in the recruitment effort.
Why not save your sales pitch for then?
02-05-2008 | 01:19 PM
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Even amongst the various unions that represent air carrier pilots, there's not unity; e.g., APA was vehemently against age 65, ALPA (after flip flopping) for it.
ALPA would have had a much better chance at SkyWest if they had their own house in order. And I do think that an in house union has a better chance than ALPA did, but I don't see that unifying pilots any more than APA, SWAPA, Teamsters, and ALPA are unified.
But, doesn't it get old belaboring union BS ? The vote is over, but they'll be another in 4 or 5 years, I GUARANTEE that. There'll be too many future 1.95% to pass up that attempt again, even if it does take a $5.3 million in the recruitment effort.
Why not save your sales pitch for then?
ALPA would have had a much better chance at SkyWest if they had their own house in order. And I do think that an in house union has a better chance than ALPA did, but I don't see that unifying pilots any more than APA, SWAPA, Teamsters, and ALPA are unified.
But, doesn't it get old belaboring union BS ? The vote is over, but they'll be another in 4 or 5 years, I GUARANTEE that. There'll be too many future 1.95% to pass up that attempt again, even if it does take a $5.3 million in the recruitment effort.
Why not save your sales pitch for then?
Now feel free to answer my original question.
Why should i try a sales pitch if the majority of the people listening cant see past their nose, or upgrade time at a regional.....
02-05-2008 | 02:05 PM
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Well, we're not exactly sitting back, but that's something I doubt we'll agree on.
I do agree, however, as I've said many, many times. If SkyWest is the biggest, and arguably one of the best, we should be paid the best, bar none.
Clearly my argument didn't win the day
02-05-2008 | 02:11 PM
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Well, we're not exactly sitting back, but that's something I doubt we'll agree on.
I do agree, however, as I've said many, many times. If SkyWest is the biggest, and arguably one of the best, we should be paid the best, bar none.
Clearly my argument didn't win the day
I do agree, however, as I've said many, many times. If SkyWest is the biggest, and arguably one of the best, we should be paid the best, bar none.
Clearly my argument didn't win the day
What exactly in your opinion makes Skywest one of the best? And you still didnt really answer the question as to why your mgmt team fights for theirs but you settle for what they give you? Just a friendly discussion
02-05-2008 | 02:15 PM
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Because their W-2's are always bigger than everyone else's, remember?
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