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Old 02-05-2008 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxcow
I agree that we should all pay attention to them because they are one of the larger regionals. Example: how that craptastic excuse for a pay proposal that passed and how its going to affect other people other than them. I know managements in the industry sure as hell were paying attention to that one.
Wait, wait, wait...How about when you work for a reputable company that pays better than TProp rates for the ERJ, then you can talk all you want about our "craptastic" payscale at SkyWest! Why don't ya'll start with matching our Brasilia rates

Wow that was an incredibly ignorant post.
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Old 02-05-2008 | 04:51 AM
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Wait, wait, wait...How about when you work for a reputable company that pays better than TProp rates for the ERJ, then you can talk all you want about our "craptastic" payscale at SkyWest! Why don't ya'll start with matching our Brasilia rates

Wow that was an incredibly ignorant post.
So it's okay that the pay increase was nowhere near what it should have been as long as you're still making more than the next guy? That's an extremely short-sighted view.
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Old 02-05-2008 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Wait, wait, wait...How about when you work for a reputable company that pays better than TProp rates for the ERJ, then you can talk all you want about our "craptastic" payscale at SkyWest! Why don't ya'll start with matching our Brasilia rates

Wow that was an incredibly ignorant post.
This discussion is about Skywest.

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I will agree that TSA has crappy wages (2nd year FO on the Brasilia is the only thing better than our rates) but we have a union with leverage that is negotiating on our behalf for a fair and equitable contract while not settling for something subpar.

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Old 02-05-2008 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Wait, wait, wait...How about when you work for a reputable company that pays better than TProp rates for the ERJ, then you can talk all you want about our "craptastic" payscale at SkyWest! Why don't ya'll start with matching our Brasilia rates

Wow that was an incredibly ignorant post.
A 2nd year Captain here makes more than a 9 year Brasilia captain. And thats with our expired contract. I can guarantee you this pilot group will not accept a new contract without a meaningful and significant increase. Also, we don't fly DC-9 sized aircraft for RJ rates.
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Old 02-05-2008 | 06:05 AM
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It's not the size that counts. It's what you do with it.

(Like only put 76 seats in.)
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Old 02-05-2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
It's not the size that counts. It's what you do with it.

(Like only put 76 seats in.)
Oh...so UPS and FedEx guys must make crap then because theres only like 5 or 6 seats on most of their planes

Its about revenue potential my man. If I'm selling 10-12 first class seats for double what I'm selling the other 60-66 seats for it might as well be an 80-86 seat airplane. Get it?
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Old 02-05-2008 | 07:02 AM
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Mainly I just wanted to say something that I thought was funny. But thanks.

In any case, SkyWest mainly has 200s. Most of the 700s are United, which have 66 seats, of which 6 are first class. The Delta 700s have 70 coach seats. The Delta 900s, which we have few of, have 76 seats, of which 9 are first class. Only in rare cases do any of our planes have the revenue potential of a DC-9.
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Old 02-05-2008 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
Mainly I just wanted to say something that I thought was funny. But thanks.

In any case, SkyWest mainly has 200s. Most of the 700s are United, which have 66 seats, of which 6 are first class. The Delta 700s have 70 coach seats. The Delta 900s, which we have few of, have 76 seats, of which 9 are first class. Only in rare cases do any of our planes have the revenue potential of a DC-9.
The fact that it is even within the realm of possibility is the problem.

There may come a day when we're all flying around in 100-120 seat airplanes for about what we're making now and codesharing with the legacies/majors or whoever. That would get around scope and I would say it's only a matter of time before the majors figure that out. British Airways is already doing it with their OpenSkies subsidiary flying 757s across the pond.

Now, I understand that is an extreme and would take a while to get there but regionals flying bigger and bigger airplanes (CRJ-900s/E-175s/E190s) is a slippery slope and the slide has already begun.
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Old 02-05-2008 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Wait, wait, wait...How about when you work for a reputable company that pays better than TProp rates for the ERJ, then you can talk all you want about our "craptastic" payscale at SkyWest! Why don't ya'll start with matching our Brasilia rates

Wow that was an incredibly ignorant post.
Wait, wait, wiat...How about when you work for a reputable company that has almost three quarters of a BILLION DOLLARS in the bank and going to make $150 MILLION this last year, then you can talk all you want about "craptastic" payscale at Skywest! Why don't ya'll start with not even matching ASA rates.

Wow that was an incredibly ignorant post.




For the record, I due envy Skywest. I wished my company was only half as successful for half as long so that they can have just half a billion dollars in the bank and making money this last year. That way we would have the leverage to try to raise the bar and not just settle for our 3% COLA.

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Old 02-05-2008 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxcow
I will agree that TSA has crappy wages (2nd year FO on the Brasilia is the only thing better than our rates) but we have a union with leverage that is negotiating on our behalf for a fair and equitable contract while not settling for something subpar.

Thank goodness that you're not settling with those crappy wages or anything subpar. BRAVO !!!!

Well, at least there's that UNION contract guaranteeing the crappy wages.

You go, girl !!!!
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