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Old 02-20-2008 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AirWillie
TreverW, I don't know if you're a pilot or whatever. That Eagle VS AAConnection carriers is totally different than Gojet. Gojet is a scab operation, if you choose to go to Gojets you will be blacklisted by ALPA and other pilots, good luck finding a job. Gojet pilots are supporting an operation which was started against union approval, they undermined the bettering of TSA pilot contract, and regional airline pilots, and the whole industry in general. Those CRJ7s that you see are supposed to be TSA airplanes and crews, that is why pilots who go there will be treated accordingly. If you like flying with no dignity, avoiding other's and would like hiding your badge at the airport go ahead and fly for Gojets. Most of the guys that go there are foreign nationals and guys you wouldn't want to share a cockpit anyways.
AirWillie, i doupt that you know what a scab is. also NOBODY from GJ has been blacklisted by ALPA. Eagle/AAConnection is exactly the same. Did AAConnection pilots undercut AE pilots ABSOLUTELY YES. I am one of them. The GJ CRJ's would be TSA pilots they had agree to accept the flying. Just because TSA pilots don't want to fly for 1-2 dollars more that does not mean that companies will shut down. PILOTS DO NOT OWN COMPANIES. Again why TSA did not strike. We are setting standards such as 22$ versus 24$ are you kidding me ? those 2 dollars will bring the bar higher ? THATS WHY OUR SALARIES DROPED. Not because of GJ or TSA because companies offered that kind of money and ALPA SAID go ahead guys take it. NOBODY strike.Nobody did anything about it.So quot crying about who took my flying your flying etc etc and do your jobs.Stickers mean absolutely nothing.In my eyes if I see a sticker like that the only think that crosses my mind is UNPROFFESSIONAL.
Old 02-20-2008 | 07:51 AM
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But will the go jet pilots be blacklisted eventually? or is this just an unofficial blacklist?
Old 02-20-2008 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by icarosF1
AirWillie, i doupt that you know what a scab is. also NOBODY from GJ has been blacklisted by ALPA. Eagle/AAConnection is exactly the same. Did AAConnection pilots undercut AE pilots ABSOLUTELY YES. I am one of them. The GJ CRJ's would be TSA pilots they had agree to accept the flying. Just because TSA pilots don't want to fly for 1-2 dollars more that does not mean that companies will shut down. PILOTS DO NOT OWN COMPANIES. Again why TSA did not strike. We are setting standards such as 22$ versus 24$ are you kidding me ? those 2 dollars will bring the bar higher ? THATS WHY OUR SALARIES DROPED. Not because of GJ or TSA because companies offered that kind of money and ALPA SAID go ahead guys take it. NOBODY strike.Nobody did anything about it.So quot crying about who took my flying your flying etc etc and do your jobs.Stickers mean absolutely nothing.In my eyes if I see a sticker like that the only think that crosses my mind is UNPROFFESSIONAL.
I don't understand why a few people bend over backwards to defend Go Jet. It seems to reflect more of your anger at Trans States (what about the other American Connection carriers Chautauqua, and Regions for that matter?). It's exactly the same eh? AA did not create Trans States and Chautauqua they were already there. They were flying those routes long before AA bought TWA. If you don't like contract carriers and you're entitled to your opinion. But that has nothing to do with creating a company within a company. I'm sorry you had a long upgrade at Eagle. I'm sorry the TWA purchase wasn't a windfall for you. Isn't it time you let it go instead of twisting it around to defend a scumbag like Hulas while he screws the TSA pilots? Or is it all just about settling old scores? The Eagle thing had more to do with egos and perception, a bunch of kids squabbling in the sandbox over who was there first. The key difference is Trans States and Chautauqua were not created out of thin air to serve AA in St. Louis, Go Jet was created from nothing by the same owner. How can you support that?
Old 02-20-2008 | 08:38 AM
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I just talked to a Colgan Q400 F/O, guess where he was before Colon.........................????????

Gulfstream, what a joke
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exwaterski, Correct Hulas created GJ. Now what did your union did about it ?
NOTHING. See my dear fellow pilot what i do not understand is how all those (specific) TSA pilots or even pilots that they are having moral issues with GJ and outfits like GJ and they talk or are pro-ALPA and against scubs and all about blacklisting people, they now work in places such us Continental(talking about scubs), AirTran(ValueJet), JetBlue(ALPA overs and ex MEC there now) and i can get you a list of more.Again realise PILOTS DO NOT RUN AIRLINES.what you or I think won't change a damm thing unless someone does something about it. I would call GJ pilots SCUBS only if TSA pilots went on strike.Did they, hmmmm no.Why ? for the same reason probably that GJ pilots got the job. Got families to feed and time to built.
Alot of people may or may not like it but oh well, when my wifes brother got furlough after 26 years in the same company guess what ALPA and their supporters did feed his family neither pay his bills. Can you support that ?
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Originally Posted by icarosF1
exwaterski, Correct Hulas created GJ. Now what did your union did about it ?
NOTHING. See my dear fellow pilot what i do not understand is how all those (specific) TSA pilots or even pilots that they are having moral issues with GJ and outfits like GJ and they talk or are pro-ALPA and against scubs and all about blacklisting people, they now work in places such us Continental(talking about scubs), AirTran(ValueJet), JetBlue(ALPA overs and ex MEC there now) and i can get you a list of more.Again realise PILOTS DO NOT RUN AIRLINES.what you or I think won't change a damm thing unless someone does something about it. I would call GJ pilots SCUBS only if TSA pilots went on strike.Did they, hmmmm no.Why ? for the same reason probably that GJ pilots got the job. Got families to feed and time to built.
Alot of people may or may not like it but oh well, when my wifes brother got furlough after 26 years in the same company guess what ALPA and their supporters did feed his family neither pay his bills. Can you support that ?
Wow you're just throwing everything out there. It seems like you have a pretty big chip on your shoulder when it comes to ALPA. I don't think you'll find too many here that will agree there's a moral equivalency between working at Go Jet and working for Continental, Air Tran, or Jet Blue. But you go ahead and make that argument. Next up the Chewbacca defense.
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And ALPA never did anything to go against Midwest/Skyway Airlines management when they brought in SkyWest for the CRJs. Now the Skyway pilots are getting shown the door with nothing in hand. Having a talk or two doesn't cut it. Fees were paid for services not rendered, ALPA needs an overhaul.
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And "my dear fellow pilot"??? You were at scabjet, no? If I am correct, and your poor spelling seems to ring true, your "dear pilots" ARE ONLY FELLOW SCUM.... And here is a heads up... There have been numerous scabjets who did NOT get a job due to their "proud" history..... That, scooter, you can be sure of....And your knowledge of unions and the RLA is stellar... Why didn't they strike?? Do you have any knowledge of the RLA? The NMB? And the union who was in place? Are you bitter that you didn't have a union hand to hold onto while Uncle H was mounting you like a trophy buck.....????? Enlighten, please.....
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Originally Posted by Flyboydan
And ALPA never did anything to go against Midwest/Skyway Airlines management when they brought in SkyWest for the CRJs. Now the Skyway pilots are getting shown the door with nothing in hand. Having a talk or two doesn't cut it. Fees were paid for services not rendered, ALPA needs an overhaul.
You know, I am going to a leadership convention in DC next week, Prater will be there for a couple of days, I will try my best to get a second with him (I am sure I wont), but I am going to ask him this very question
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When are you guys gonna understand that Alpa doesn't care for the regionals?
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