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Old 02-18-2008 | 12:28 AM
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I'm waiting for Soutwest to call RAH to do flying into Mexico for them on the 170's because it would allow them to expand and yet stay away from the "little plane" mentality they are campaigning against.



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Old 02-18-2008 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
I'm waiting for Soutwest to call RAH to do flying into Mexico for them on the 170's because it would allow them to expand and yet stay away from the "little plane" mentality they are campaigning against.
Now that would be disappointing for us poor SkyWest folk, no?
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Old 02-18-2008 | 07:43 AM
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Old 02-18-2008 | 07:48 AM
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Yes, all classes have been cancelled for the near future. Not sure how long it will be, I heard until August. Probably has to do with Delta cutting back alot of flying. In today's day and age of fuel prices, I just don't think the 50 seat RJ is economical to run anymore. I would venture to guess that airplanes like the E170 and 190, maybe even the CRJ900 are going to be the future of regional aircraft.....
I hope not, I hope they would be the future of smaller mainline aircraft.............
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Old 02-18-2008 | 07:53 AM
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I hope not, I hope they would be the future of smaller mainline aircraft.............
Touche. With appropriate pay rates as well.
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Old 02-18-2008 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sbaker1595
just wait, the CRJ1000 is going to be the new cattle car of the regional airline market......
I respecfully have to disagree with you. Little thing call scope is going to keep those birds out the regional market as it should.

You do realize that the 1000 is a 100 seater and even if you throw a few first class seats you still end up with over 80 seats total...to my knowledge the only airline with scope over 70 seats right now is US airways as grandfathered through America West....
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Old 02-18-2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
I'm waiting for Soutwest to call RAH to do flying into Mexico for them on the 170's because it would allow them to expand and yet stay away from the "little plane" mentality they are campaigning against.

It's not that simple, as you're aware SWA is not a flag carrier, which is the whole reason for getting someone else to do their international flying; well a regional isn't either. We all operate into Mexico under the umbrella of the flag carriers we service.

My money is on ATA doing that flying with 73's as they're established already with SWA. Otherwise it would be a very big investment for any regional to go through that much red tape for a code-share.

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Old 02-18-2008 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bond
You do realize that the 1000 is a 100 seater and even if you throw a few first class seats you still end up with over 80 seats total...to my knowledge the only airline with scope over 70 seats right now is US airways as grandfathered through America West....
DAL is 76 seats and MAG is running their CR9's at 86 seats US.

I do hope that scope doesn't loosen anymore than it has now but remember that most everyone had scope restricting reginals to 50 seats half a decade ago and now that has changes. We can't see the future, all we can do is hope that it's in our favor.
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Old 02-18-2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Koolaidman
I met Chip Childs when he was flying around our system rallying the troops before the ALPA vote. I asked what was new with SkyWest, any word on the Midwest side, etc. He mentioned that they were trying to get United to do 900's. He didn't say in what seating configuration though.

So I agree with the earlier posts that the 700's and 900's will probably be the aircraft of the future for regionals. At SkyWest we still have 18 700's and 4 900's coming later this year. So I think hiring will pick back up sooner or later.

I can only think of us getting the Midwest 50 seaters and RAH getting the 50 seaters for Continental in the last few years. The 200 is probably going to phased out in the next 5 - 10 years.
I don't think 50 seaters will be going anywhere. They may limit their routes, but they will not disappear. There will still be a need for service to small towns. Yes, turboprops could replace the 50 seat RJ in that capacity, however, it will most likely not happen due to the public. There are still many people who have the "dangerous propeller plane" syndrome. When Airways replaced turboprop routes with jets, the load factor drastically increased. Though we might can never understand it, for some reason the public, for the most part, think jets are safer.
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Old 02-18-2008 | 07:26 PM
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Though we might can never understand it, for some reason the public, for the most part, think jets are safer.
Fewer moving parts.
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