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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Colgan Air has just announced that it has made some changes in how they treat their pilots.

1) Commuter Policy. Pretty much a typical commuter policy as in the pilot must list on two flights prior and be able to show proof if asked.

2) Uniform allowance. $200 a year after their first year of service. You have the option of rolling it over to the next year if you do not use it.

3) Parking. Colgan has always paid for parking at the pilots base but now they offer to pay parking at another location outside of base if the pilot wishes, example would be parking off site or at the pilots commuter airport.

4) Report time. You now have 1.5 hour call out to show after being called if based at IAH, BWI, EWR, and LGA.

So I am wondering why the sudden kindness from Buddy and the gang? Seems fishy when the union drive will be kicking up again here soon?

What does all this cost?

1) not sure, but might mean a larger reserve pool

2) $80,000 total or 5 1/2 CENTS per flight hour per pilot

3) should cost no more than having everyone park at IAH, BWI, EWR, and LGA

4) little out of pocket, but may have some affect on what the mainline pays (revenue) assuming flights are delayed an additional 30 minutes

1, 3, and 4 are not concessions to pilots, they are concessions to the hub system. All they do is build in a little more wiggle room for crew scheduling and dispatch. They may be an attempted solution to recent poor on time performance.

As for 2....... that is roughly equal to 3 seconds of fuel burned during a single engine turn
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kalyx522
To me, it's nothing more than a halfa$sed attempt at pacifying some of the pilots before the union drive. I know it will work on some of my coworkers, but I'm almost offended. OK, a uniform allowance is nice, but at the same time, they've created more substantial problems like with hot reserve and cancellation credit. Am I stupid? Is a $200 pittance supposed to make me happy while I'm getting jipped of regular pay? I don't know who came up with the idea of making these "improvements" while ripping off crewmembers on pay... their priorities are obviously out of order. If they expect me to think that they're serious about improving work rules or at the least, keeping ALPA at bay, they wouldn't be doing all that pay credit screwing.
At least someone gets it...............this is exactly whats up

Notice no change in the Payscale
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Yeah...they're up to something alright.

I was recently in the Pilot Recruiter's office of another airline and overheard the conversation between the female recruiter from Colgan and the other guy's office I was in. I'm gonna leave it at that.

Now, I'm not trying to start any rumors, flaming or anything like that. I will keep my mouth shut until I hear it from you Colgan guys as posted on APC. I will say this...the next time a NH for Colgan is in SE Florida tell them to look me up. Drinks on me.


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Colgan is replacing all their turboprops with single engine piston aircraft?
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
At least someone gets it...............this is exactly whats up

Notice no change in the Payscale
I agree, it's just an attempt to stem attrition a bit and buy some time. It's a day late and several dollars short IMO. The good news is now it's policy, so when the drive succeeds, this will be our contract until a new one can be written. It's a small box for us to stand on when we get together and negotiate for more.
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
No, I'm with you. His post is complete gibberish! If his intent was to only be understood by Colgan pilots then obviously fell short.

No JetJock16. This is not jibberish. Maybe I should have started a new thread about this as oppose to posting a comment under this thread.

My comment has to do with initial and remedial training, if there is such a thing. However, I know what I heard. If I jumped the gun in terms of posting this info under this thread....then I apologize.

However, you should know me by now. I have more important things to do with my time than to start rumors with complete strangers on an public internet forum.


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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
I have more important things to do with my time than to start rumors with complete strangers on an public internet forum.
They arent complete strangers... some people spend so much time on here they can only recognize their best friends by multi letter code names and a little square picture.
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
No JetJock16. This is not jibberish. Maybe I should have started a new thread about this as oppose to posting a comment under this thread.

My comment has to do with initial and remedial training, if there is such a thing. However, I know what I heard. If I jumped the gun in terms of posting this info under this thread....then I apologize.

However, you should know me by now. I have more important things to do with my time than to start rumors with complete strangers on an public internet forum.


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I was only making the comment that I couldn't follow you're postings intended meaning. No offense and I know you're not one to flame.
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
They arent complete strangers... some people spend so much time on here they can only recognize their best friends by multi letter code names and a little square picture.
LOL! Now that's funny!
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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
I was only making the comment that I couldn't follow you're postings intended meaning. No offense and I know you're not one to flame.
I know. I don't want to come across as being pi$$ed or anything like that....b/c I'm not....but I know....you take no PRISONERS. LOL!!!

It's all good!

Gotta get back to work. Will talk L8R.


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Old 03-03-2008 | 11:47 AM
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I don't know why some people are trying to complain about things that are helps to them. Yes it could be better. Yes these are small things. But, would you rather not have them at all?

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Pocket your $200. Take a shower before you head to the airport when your reserve is activated. Feel a little bit better about commuting.

I don't see how any of this is a bad move. It's progress.
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