At Comair we were told we could not jumpseat until we passed the checkride. If the captain asks to see your certificates you will not have the CL-65 SIC on there. Non-reving though is a different story. Our travel benefits kicked in 30 days after we were hired.

 

I guess different airlines have different policies? I would like to hear from people that have experience with ASA in particular.

 

I thought in order to jumpseat, you had to be a qualified crew member. The question is, when do you become a qualified crew member? Most everyone I've talked to this about consider that to be "after" passing the check ride.

When I was in training, we were told that jumpseating prior to check ride was grounds for immediate termination.

I don't work for ASA, though.

 

As an airline employee, to sit in the jumpseat on a part 121 flight, you must be a part 121 certified flight crew member. Thus you must have your SIC rating for a part 121 carrier. Just because you're in CASS doesn't mean you can sit in the jumpseat. Non-revving is the 30 day requirement. AFter 30 days of employment, you can nonrev with delta

 

At ASA you can jumpseat as soon as you're in CASS, which is normally by the end of the first week. You can't ride on ASA or any Delta Connection flight for 30 days though. I don't know what these other guys are talking about but I jumpsat in the cockpit many times before my checkride.

 

You have the rest of your career to sit in the jumpseat. As a commuter I cringed when I read your post. Also I'm pretty sure you can't jumpseat until your a "qualified crewmember" which you won't be until your done training.

 

Same here........

 

I drove 68MPH on the highway the other day. Doesn't mean it was legal.....

I hate to quote regs, but here we go:
121.547 (Admission to flight deck)
(c) "No person may admit any person to the flight deck unless there is a seat available for his use in the passenger compartment, except
(3) a CERTIFICATED airman employed by the certificate holder whose duties require an airman certificate
(4) a CERTIFICATED airman employed by another part 119 certificate holder whose duties with that part 199 certificate holder require an airman certificate...."

You are not certified to fly the airplane until you pass your checkride. Therefore, you are not certificated for that operation.

 

So I guess that means that mechanics, management, and FAA/NTSB individuals without a pilot cert. cannot jumpseat. Things must have really changed in the past year.

When I started with ASA we were encouraged to jumpseat before we even got to our "CPT's". I have heard from newhires that they are telling them you cannot sit up front for 30 days after DOH. No one had said anything about that when I was in training. The whole class pretty much started jumpseating home the first weekend of indoc. on both mainline and ASA airplanes. It was really helpful experience in the way of seeing flows, techniques and just what to expect when you get out there.

I think jumpseating is really based on company policy exclusively. ASA "used" to be pretty relaxed but from what Im hearing they may be restricting it somewhat.

When I worked for jetBlue I was working in their Technical Operation dept. and there were many times in which I sat in the jumpseat and I was far from a pilot. Sometimes there were seats in the back and sometimes there weren't. Their FOM allowed guys from Tech Ops (maintenance) to sit up front at the captains discretion.

Your best bet in accurate info is to ask the chief pilots down in Ops. They are pretty good with that. Really the best guy for that kind of info is Dave over in the overflow lounge. That guy is a really go to guy. He'll always lead you in the right direction. Goodluck.

 

No need to get nasty. Mechanics, FAA/NTSB, ATC, they are all certified. 121.547 states fairly clearly who can sit in the jumpseat. Granted, there is a little grey area on some of the wording. But that's how just about any reg is