Jumpseating on ASA?
03-04-2008 | 07:38 PM
#21
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. There were a few people in the newhire class that had already obtained a SIC type in an RJ as they were with another regional before ASA but we all know you have to go through all company specific training prior to flying the line.
03-04-2008 | 08:13 PM
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I drove 68MPH on the highway the other day. Doesn't mean it was legal.....
I hate to quote regs, but here we go:
121.547 (Admission to flight deck)
(c) "No person may admit any person to the flight deck unless there is a seat available for his use in the passenger compartment, except
(3) a CERTIFICATED airman employed by the certificate holder whose duties require an airman certificate
(4) a CERTIFICATED airman employed by another part 119 certificate holder whose duties with that part 199 certificate holder require an airman certificate...."
You are not certified to fly the airplane until you pass your checkride. Therefore, you are not certificated for that operation.
I hate to quote regs, but here we go:
121.547 (Admission to flight deck)
(c) "No person may admit any person to the flight deck unless there is a seat available for his use in the passenger compartment, except
(3) a CERTIFICATED airman employed by the certificate holder whose duties require an airman certificate
(4) a CERTIFICATED airman employed by another part 119 certificate holder whose duties with that part 199 certificate holder require an airman certificate...."
You are not certified to fly the airplane until you pass your checkride. Therefore, you are not certificated for that operation.
Where does it say you have to be certificated in that type? I just see that you have to be a certificated airman. So that means I am a certificated airman with my commercial.
03-04-2008 | 08:22 PM
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When I went through training last summer, people were jumpseating the first week. Then a friend of mine two classes later was told no jumpseating or nonreving for 30 days. After that they were allowed to. I don't see why not. How do you think interns for major airlines without a commercial certificate are allowed. You don't have to be 121 certified from my experience. I highly doubt they would allow it otherwise.
03-04-2008 | 08:33 PM
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03-04-2008 | 08:48 PM
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I am a newhire with ASA and I have yet to jumpseat. I would like any advice on how the process works. Do I just go up to the gate and ask if I can jumpseat? I am intrested in sitting up front and watching the crew go through the checklists and callouts. I figure I could learn a lot by just observing. I know part of my initial training will include jumpseat IOE, but I would like to do it before I get to the sim. Thanks
03-04-2008 | 08:59 PM
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I am a newhire with ASA and I have yet to jumpseat. I would like any advice on how the process works. Do I just go up to the gate and ask if I can jumpseat? I am intrested in sitting up front and watching the crew go through the checklists and callouts. I figure I could learn a lot by just observing. I know part of my initial training will include jumpseat IOE, but I would like to do it before I get to the sim. Thanks
03-04-2008 | 10:33 PM
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From: Senior Seat Cushion Tester Extraordinaire
So I should just go to the gate with my ASA ID and ask to jumpseat and once I board ask the captain if he minds if I jumpseat. And i should have my passport and certificates handy. If there are any ASA captains on the forum how would you handle this situation? Would you welcome a newhire into the cockpit?
Passport and company badge for the gate/ticket agent.
Company badge, pilot certificate and medical for the Captain. (Usually the Captain just looks at your jumpseat slip and company badge.)
Don't ever conduct yourself like the jumpseat is an entitlement. If the Captain spits in your face, just thank him for considering your request and try to catch the next one. If you get a ride, don't leave without thanking them.
03-05-2008 | 06:30 AM
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03-05-2008 | 08:16 AM
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I started the same day with ASA as bsh and I jumpseated home on 2 seperate legs with United after 2 weeks of indoc. We were CASS approved in 4 days. Both flights were completely full and I was on the flight deck for both. Both captains knew I was in training and had no problem with it.
Cessna157...There's no way you would be required to be SIC typed or you would only be allowed to Jumpseat on your specific model aircraft.
Cessna157...There's no way you would be required to be SIC typed or you would only be allowed to Jumpseat on your specific model aircraft.
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