school sucks, i want a regional
03-08-2008 | 01:30 PM
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I MISS COLLEGE. The regionals are like a never before tasted bad beer. The possibilities are enticing and exciting when you're asked which one you want. But the after taste is about as bitter as can be.
Don't be rushed into something that's not going anywhere. Build your time so you don't end up at "any reputable regional" but find yourself at "the reputable regional where i most definitely want to be."
Don't be rushed into something that's not going anywhere. Build your time so you don't end up at "any reputable regional" but find yourself at "the reputable regional where i most definitely want to be."
03-08-2008 | 02:12 PM
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i have been flying for the regionals for less than a year and i often debate going back to school.
I would instruct at your current college, see if they offer tuiition assistance to emplyees and take advantage of that and get a second major in a field unrelated to aviation
I would instruct at your current college, see if they offer tuiition assistance to emplyees and take advantage of that and get a second major in a field unrelated to aviation
03-08-2008 | 02:24 PM
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I've never understood the whole "go to TSA/Mesa/Great Lakes for a year and then leave" kinda thing. If you're going to go to a bottom feeder, might as well stick it out, upgrade quick, build that turbine PIC, and take your shot at getting hired at a major/LCC in your mid-twenties.
Finish school...and then evaluate your options and goals.
Finish school...and then evaluate your options and goals.
03-08-2008 | 04:22 PM
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A few seniority numbers at a regional is worthless if you can't go on to a major. Let me say that again. A few seniority numbers at a regional is worthless if you can't go on to a major.
If you do not finish your four year college degree, you WILL NOT be hired by a major airline. So why are you in such a rush to get to a regional??
The famous line "seniority is everything" gets thrown around a lot because people want to get to a regional, upgrade as soon as possible, to start building turbine PIC time so they can get hired at a major airline. Without a four year college degree, you WILL NOT be hired by a major airline. So what's the rush to upgrade? What's the rush to get turbine PIC? Why are you in such a rush if you are going to be stuck at a regional airline for the rest of your life.
If I were you, I would finish my four year college degree. After that I would flight instruct until I felt comfortable to go to a quality regional like Skywest, Republic, Expressjet, or someone similar. Hiring will not stop. The regionals in general are still short on pilots. If anything, this slight slowdown is because 50 seaters are no longer economical, and that means a shift of flying from regionals to mainline. THIS IS GOOD FOR AVIATION!!! United, Delta, Continental, Northwest, and US Air, along with most the other majors are still hiring hundreds and hundreds of people each.
Think about it. Lets say you jump ship to a bad regional like Mesa. Then lets pretend that hiring does stop (It will not happen, but we will use it as an example because that is what you are afraid of). Then guess what, you are stuck flying for Mesa. You would be better off as a flight instructor. Again, what good is that TPIC if you CAN NOT do anything with it (you can't go to a major without a 4 year college degree). So all you are doing is acrewing seniority at a crappy regional, and that is worthless.
As one famous jedi once said, "Fear leads to the dark side." You are afraid of something that will not happen, and it is distorting your judgement. Do not worry about regional hiring. They will still be hiring when you are done with college and finished instructing.
Listen, I don't have a dog in this fight. If you abandon college and get on with a crappy regional, it is only good for me. It means there will be less competition for major airline jobs. It means you will be taking a job that I won't do (like work for Mesa), and leave the good regional jobs for me. But I am giving you the best advice I can because I like helping out others. Finish your four year college degree. Instruct for a little while. Then get on with a good regional.
This is the same advice I would give my brother, my best friend, or my son.
If you do not finish your four year college degree, you WILL NOT be hired by a major airline. So why are you in such a rush to get to a regional??
The famous line "seniority is everything" gets thrown around a lot because people want to get to a regional, upgrade as soon as possible, to start building turbine PIC time so they can get hired at a major airline. Without a four year college degree, you WILL NOT be hired by a major airline. So what's the rush to upgrade? What's the rush to get turbine PIC? Why are you in such a rush if you are going to be stuck at a regional airline for the rest of your life.
If I were you, I would finish my four year college degree. After that I would flight instruct until I felt comfortable to go to a quality regional like Skywest, Republic, Expressjet, or someone similar. Hiring will not stop. The regionals in general are still short on pilots. If anything, this slight slowdown is because 50 seaters are no longer economical, and that means a shift of flying from regionals to mainline. THIS IS GOOD FOR AVIATION!!! United, Delta, Continental, Northwest, and US Air, along with most the other majors are still hiring hundreds and hundreds of people each.
Think about it. Lets say you jump ship to a bad regional like Mesa. Then lets pretend that hiring does stop (It will not happen, but we will use it as an example because that is what you are afraid of). Then guess what, you are stuck flying for Mesa. You would be better off as a flight instructor. Again, what good is that TPIC if you CAN NOT do anything with it (you can't go to a major without a 4 year college degree). So all you are doing is acrewing seniority at a crappy regional, and that is worthless.
As one famous jedi once said, "Fear leads to the dark side." You are afraid of something that will not happen, and it is distorting your judgement. Do not worry about regional hiring. They will still be hiring when you are done with college and finished instructing.
Listen, I don't have a dog in this fight. If you abandon college and get on with a crappy regional, it is only good for me. It means there will be less competition for major airline jobs. It means you will be taking a job that I won't do (like work for Mesa), and leave the good regional jobs for me. But I am giving you the best advice I can because I like helping out others. Finish your four year college degree. Instruct for a little while. Then get on with a good regional.
This is the same advice I would give my brother, my best friend, or my son.
Should I quit my job at a major since I don't have a college degree?
03-08-2008 | 04:27 PM
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03-08-2008 | 04:37 PM
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I just love it when someone makes a blanket statement like "You will NOT get hired at a major without a degree", especially when they aren't even in the industry yet. The guy that posted that probably goes to one of "those" aviation universities where they indoctrinate that students that the only way to get to a major is with a degree, preferably, a degree through their university.
03-08-2008 | 04:41 PM
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I a senior at my school
30TT 14 multi... I looking to go to a regional by the end of this May 08 with 40TT
I hear that hiring is low, and the mins are going to back up. I want to waste time at a regional, but I want to go somewhere. I was hoping for A jet (I know i can't) I get on TSA, get some type-rating, and jump. Is that frowned up?
Just get anybody who would be easy from PI or MI (not really interested in reserve)
30TT 14 multi... I looking to go to a regional by the end of this May 08 with 40TT
I hear that hiring is low, and the mins are going to back up. I want to waste time at a regional, but I want to go somewhere. I was hoping for A jet (I know i can't) I get on TSA, get some type-rating, and jump. Is that frowned up?
Just get anybody who would be easy from PI or MI (not really interested in reserve)
03-08-2008 | 04:59 PM
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I disagree, you don't need more than one degree unless you are getting a masters in your field... which is not needed in aviation. Just know that commuting sucks and some regionals are much better than others. You should pick the one where you will be happy... if that means building more time then thats what you should do. But I would apply right now, the worst they can say is no, or let us know when you have X amount of hours.
03-08-2008 | 05:01 PM
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Ok i havent read all the posts yet... but just for the records....
I am a senior... with half a semester left ... (which i am already enrolled) I am going to finish school in MAY... i just want somewhere to go afterwards... kinda planning ahead yanno
I am a senior... with half a semester left ... (which i am already enrolled) I am going to finish school in MAY... i just want somewhere to go afterwards... kinda planning ahead yanno
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