de727ups

"My first flight in an Airplane was April 4th this year [2007], now I'm sitting right seat of a E145...."

"Trust me man turning the knobs and pressing the buttons in this airplane can be so difficult."

Here is a guy with no respect for the profession, the job, or the career....

He's from ATP. I think he got hired at ASA with low time.

WhizWheel

Frankly guys like this make my blood boil. Total sense of entitlement and once here total lack of repsect for the profession. I'm embarrassed to say I share the same job as this guy <shaking head>

freezingflyboy

I agree whole heartedly with your first point. However, I think he is at CHQ. ASA doesn't fly 145s.

keiundraj

Why do I make you blood boil man? What have I done to you? LOL..... I respect the profession, It's guys like y'all who thinks someone has to pledge with the same pledge book you did don't respect the profession. All of the guys I've flown with are very Impressed with me. It's not my job to impress guys on this Forum. My job is to fly an airplane.......... I do it, and I do it well, I got enough friends don't need U!!!!! It makes no sense man. This has turned from a discussion about ATC to Low time.....

This is Such hypocrisy........ I can just hear you guys at a Job Interview.......
Interviewer.......Hi Sir We here at ___________ Airlines would like to offer you a position with our great airline
You...... Well, you know....... thanks for the job offer but in order to gain the respect of my fellow "Pilots" I think I'll go back and fly until I have about 1500hrs. Airline experience isn't what I need right now I need more "time" so I can create the Illusion of experience. Plus then I can talk about all the other guys who get hired with lower time.

Here are the facts man! I went through the SAME training as the 1500, 2000, 3000hr guys in my class. We fly the SAME airplane, probably have made the SAME mistakes in the plane. What's different? They had more time than I. The flight instructor, with 4000hrs had no better advantage or knowledge about the company procedures, the airplane's systems, flying a swept wing aircraft, than I when we got in that class or sim. We all started on the same level playing field. Get a grip man!

Being hired after 6months of flying speaks highly of me? You can disagree, but my Classmates, my Instructors, my check airmen, my captains, my passengers, everybody I've dealt with thus far would agree.......

FlyJSH

I don't doubt the 1500, 2000, 3000 hour guys in your class probably made the same mistakes as you. The difference is they made the mistakes in a Single Cessna on traffic watch or a 310 hauling checks not in a 40,000 lb aircraft with fifty pax in back.

I don't know you or your flying skills. But your I did it in six months, that proves I am great attitude sucks.



The saddest thing is that a controller asked us pilots a favor and the thread has gone down the crapper. All the guy sought was a little cooperation so we could all go home after a nice boring day.

keiundraj

I couldn't agree with you more here.... The reason it's gone down the crapper is that these guys continue to throw attacks at me.

[quote=FlyJSH;351993]I did it in six months, that proves I am great attitude sucks/quote]

I am a victim of spin, here.... That earlier post was a responce I had to a question in the Flight School Section 4months ago. I've been Rev. Jeremiah Wright here, they're taking bits and pieces of things that I've said and are putting them together to attempt to make a point.

The attitude from them is "You did it in six month that proves you Suck attitude sucks."...........................

Now back to the topic...I think every pilot should spend some time in an ARTCC, APPCH or a busy tower and every ATC should spend a little time in the Cockpit. I think it's a part of CRM, They're just as much a part of the crew as everyone else. They often control situations that will greater enhance the operations in the cockpit, and reduce workload. I think the Idea it's being a part of the training curriculm on both ends would be good. We don't study the 7110 (at least where I went to school) and I'm pretty sure they're not required to know all our regs.

Slice

[QUOTE=keiundraj;351998]I couldn't agree with you more here.... The reason it's gone down the crapper is that these guys continue to throw attacks at me.

You're right, it's not you...it's the rest of us and we're all out to get you. Got paranoia?

milky

I had a great response for this thread for our young know-it-all, but I realized half-way through typing it that he's not mature enough to understand it, so it is a waste of time. Unfortunately, that truly is what you get when you pay peanuts for pilots. I'm sure not all the young guys are that naive and cocky, but if I had a guy like that as one of my students on the military side, we would crush him until he cried out, then we would show him the door. You can always teach a guy how to do it the right way, but a guy with an attitude like that is a danger to everybody in the air.

freezingflyboy

I hear ya milky. I hit that point with this guy last night. Then his posts this morning about how WE all have the attitude and are ganging up on HIM and how HE is the intelligent, rational, and capable pilot just cinched the deal. Maybe in a few days, on the 1 year anniversary of his first flight, he can use his vastly superior attitude and knowledge of all things aeronautical to teach us all what he has learned and what we should know

Swedish Blender

Those crazy ATCers actually had the nerve to SELCAL me today and ask if we could make 390. Can't he read my flight plan that said M84/370? I don't care if Air New Zealand is too heavy for higher. Maybe I'm just grumpy from spending all my money at Dukes for the last three days.