If your were Pinnacle MGMT, what would you do with COLGAN?
04-06-2008 | 04:02 PM
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Hey guys, just an idea that has been going around my head. What is PNCL going to do with Colgan? All I hear is that Colgan is only costing money to PNCL CORP. and that PNCL airlines is carrying the weight. Second question, what would you do with Colgan if you were uncle PHIL?
Personally I think I would defenetly get rid of the 1900s and start phasing out the Saabs. I would also close some bases and start working my way towards and all Q400 operator. Bad thing is that 400s cost a lot of money, and the Saabs are really cheap but not money makers. Still though, I think large modern turpoprops are the answer to fuel costs.
I'm just writting this because I'm bored, and would like to hear some ideas just for fun. I don't want to start a bashing thread, if you wan't to bash, I couldn't care less......but at least try to sound intelligent.
Personally I think I would defenetly get rid of the 1900s and start phasing out the Saabs. I would also close some bases and start working my way towards and all Q400 operator. Bad thing is that 400s cost a lot of money, and the Saabs are really cheap but not money makers. Still though, I think large modern turpoprops are the answer to fuel costs.
I'm just writting this because I'm bored, and would like to hear some ideas just for fun. I don't want to start a bashing thread, if you wan't to bash, I couldn't care less......but at least try to sound intelligent.
04-07-2008 | 03:53 AM
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Show us Colganites how its done, You can Have the Q400 and the crappy pay that goes with it!
04-07-2008 | 05:05 AM
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Maybe you could negotiate a better labor contract/salary for the Q400 also, since Pinnacle Pilots have done such a stellar job negotiating their own labor contract/salary on the CRJ.
Show us Colganites how its done, You can Have the Q400 and the crappy pay that goes with it!
Show us Colganites how its done, You can Have the Q400 and the crappy pay that goes with it!
04-07-2008 | 06:05 AM
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Nope, not even close.
Actually I'm one of the few people who refused to fly the Q400 for 50 Seat RJ pay.
You can thank the other Colganite ALPA Unionizing Committee Members who folded like a lawn chair less than a week after it got voted down. Those members are now all in line to fly the Q400.
It's no wonder your Pinnacle Management bought Colgan.
I doubt it's any consolation, but their are a few pilots here with a spine. (Not at Many as I Thought, But a Few)
Actually I'm one of the few people who refused to fly the Q400 for 50 Seat RJ pay.
You can thank the other Colganite ALPA Unionizing Committee Members who folded like a lawn chair less than a week after it got voted down. Those members are now all in line to fly the Q400.
It's no wonder your Pinnacle Management bought Colgan.
I doubt it's any consolation, but their are a few pilots here with a spine. (Not at Many as I Thought, But a Few)
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04-07-2008 | 09:28 AM
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Nope, not even close.
Actually I'm one of the few people who refused to fly the Q400 for 50 Seat RJ pay.
You can thank the other Colganite ALPA Unionizing Committee Members who folded like a lawn chair less than a week after it got voted down. Those members are now all in line to fly the Q400.
It's no wonder your Pinnacle Management bought Colgan.
I doubt it's any consolation, but their are a few pilots here with a spine. (Not at Many as I Thought, But a Few)
Actually I'm one of the few people who refused to fly the Q400 for 50 Seat RJ pay.
You can thank the other Colganite ALPA Unionizing Committee Members who folded like a lawn chair less than a week after it got voted down. Those members are now all in line to fly the Q400.
It's no wonder your Pinnacle Management bought Colgan.
I doubt it's any consolation, but their are a few pilots here with a spine. (Not at Many as I Thought, But a Few)
04-07-2008 | 02:31 PM
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Well coming from this 4500 hr Saab pilot I would say that PNCL should transfer all the RJ's to Colgan and let those pilots fly them. Ha Ha Ha 
I couldn't resist for the dumb $hits that always say that. "give us your airplanes, spacificaly the 400, and get lost" But on a more serious note, there were roomers of trying to change to an all Q fleet (IE 200, 300, & 400) This would be very very costly though and I dont think the new step dad would be quite up for that yet. There are plans to phase out the remaining 4 1900's by the end of the year. And one question, if Colgan is loosing that much money then why did we get bought? Riddle me that!
I couldn't resist for the dumb $hits that always say that. "give us your airplanes, spacificaly the 400, and get lost" But on a more serious note, there were roomers of trying to change to an all Q fleet (IE 200, 300, & 400) This would be very very costly though and I dont think the new step dad would be quite up for that yet. There are plans to phase out the remaining 4 1900's by the end of the year. And one question, if Colgan is loosing that much money then why did we get bought? Riddle me that!
04-07-2008 | 04:50 PM
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Well coming from this 4500 hr Saab pilot I would say that PNCL should transfer all the RJ's to Colgan and let those pilots fly them. Ha Ha Ha I couldn't resist for the dumb $hits that always say that. "give us your airplanes, spacificaly the 400, and get lost" But on a more serious note, there were roomers of trying to change to an all Q fleet (IE 200, 300, & 400) This would be very very costly though and I dont think the new step dad would be quite up for that yet. There are plans to phase out the remaining 4 1900's by the end of the year. And one question, if Colgan is loosing that much money then why did we get bought? Riddle me that!
I couldn't resist for the dumb $hits that always say that. "give us your airplanes, spacificaly the 400, and get lost" But on a more serious note, there were roomers of trying to change to an all Q fleet (IE 200, 300, & 400) This would be very very costly though and I dont think the new step dad would be quite up for that yet. There are plans to phase out the remaining 4 1900's by the end of the year. And one question, if Colgan is loosing that much money then why did we get bought? Riddle me that!
04-07-2008 | 05:06 PM
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Chatting with the tug driver in EWR this morning.... with a sigh he mentioned how Colgan is continuously delayed out of EWR every day. He is a EWR veteran and remarked at how disorganized things are. Daily mx delays, etc.
It's nice to see that XJT continues to lead CAL regional feed in on time performance, maintenance, and stuff. Not bragging or flaming... just noticing on how a couple extra dollars does go a long way.
At least XJT is pulling in some extra revenue while carrying Culligan due to the inability to get more of the Qs on the line on schedule. Flying lots of Colgan routes in the next couple weeks to cover for CAL.
What should Pinnacle do with Colgan? Get rid of the whipsaw, and perhaps give the jobs to the pilots that earned the money to pay for the aircraft!?
It's nice to see that XJT continues to lead CAL regional feed in on time performance, maintenance, and stuff. Not bragging or flaming... just noticing on how a couple extra dollars does go a long way.
At least XJT is pulling in some extra revenue while carrying Culligan due to the inability to get more of the Qs on the line on schedule. Flying lots of Colgan routes in the next couple weeks to cover for CAL.
What should Pinnacle do with Colgan? Get rid of the whipsaw, and perhaps give the jobs to the pilots that earned the money to pay for the aircraft!?
04-07-2008 | 05:30 PM
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04-07-2008 | 06:37 PM
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The maturity of some of you amazes me. This is the reason why this forum and especially the Regional section had hit all time lows. Too much "my regional is better." I have had my immature post wars in the past but it is old, way old.
N2, I am sorry but your attitude is a joke. You sound like a bitter child in all your posts. Saab had good points at times and has halted his Colgan bashing but you just go on and on. You only fuel to the Colgan vs XJet feelings out there...grow up. Oh and I know "I am a joke and a loser" cause I work for a "bottom feeder"...ok whatever.
When is this forum going to grow up.
Perhaps the mods need to do a better job to clean up the maturity on this forum. They talk a good game about "infractions" but same old people talking the same old junk.
N2, I am sorry but your attitude is a joke. You sound like a bitter child in all your posts. Saab had good points at times and has halted his Colgan bashing but you just go on and on. You only fuel to the Colgan vs XJet feelings out there...grow up. Oh and I know "I am a joke and a loser" cause I work for a "bottom feeder"...ok whatever.
When is this forum going to grow up.
Perhaps the mods need to do a better job to clean up the maturity on this forum. They talk a good game about "infractions" but same old people talking the same old junk.
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