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ExperimentalAB 04-07-2008 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Foxcow (Post 357578)
Or IAD... Outstation basing is so much fun.

It's great, I think, so long as you don't commute...then, I imagine, it becomes quite a nightmare :eek:

reevesofskyking 04-07-2008 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 357583)
It's great, I think, so long as you don't commute...then, I imagine, it becomes quite a nightmare :eek:

No it is not great for anyone anymore regardless where you live.

They do not let you limo in of for a trip anymore.

careerpilot 04-07-2008 12:11 PM

Too bad this is a vilolation of Eagle's scope clause. Eagle ALPA will fight it and we will win because arbitrator Bloch already determined this is a violation of our sope in the AX grievance. TSA and CHQ have no business being on our turf and we will defend it through every means necessary.

SharkyBN584 04-07-2008 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 357599)
TSA and CHQ have no business being on our turf and we will defend it through every means necessary.

Your turf? Is this a movie about the 1950's? Are the Jets and the Thunderbirds gonna have a dance off on the ramp to see whose cooler? Maybe we can race our 145's for pinks. I hear that's all the rage.

See you in Miami. I'm gonna buy one of those white linen shirts and talk with a Cuban accent on the radio just to get geared up for this.

P.S. - You should probably relax until you see something taxiing around the ramp. Oh, and it's not YOUR flying, it's American's flying.

RJ Pilot 04-07-2008 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 357617)

P.S. - You should probably relax until you see something taxiing around the ramp. Oh, and it's not YOUR flying, it's American's flying.

Wrong. Its AMR flying.

Foxcow 04-07-2008 04:09 PM

I doubt it will be TSA because we are contractually bound to stay in STL if we are working for AA. We don't have airplanes for it either.

ChickenFlight 04-07-2008 07:23 PM

Rumor has it that American wants this flying done by whoever can do it. Eagle would be preferred because at the moment, that keeps it all within the AMR umbrella. Unfortunately, Eagle cannot staff this additional flying right now. As a way of getting the flying, they will let connection do it and sacrifice the STL flying which is not so profitable at the moment (since uncle Hulas or CHQ have to take their cut of the profits when its flown by AX).

My prediction is that AX will start the flying out of Miami, EGL ALPA will fight it tooth and nail and eventually the arbitrator will reiterate his original ruling that AX flying is strictly limited to the old TWA flying out of STL. In the meantime, a lot of TSA pilots will deadhead back and forth to MIA until they turn blue in the face and AMR will realize that they don't really miss the flying that they sacrificed out of STL for the MIA stuff (and that realization will come up right around the time the AX contract is up).

When you doll it all out it leads to zero net gain in flying for TSA and about 96 additional block hrs/mo for Eagle (source is a LEC rep), a good thing considering everyone else is cutting back 50 seat flying, and a re-evaluation of outstanding grievances regarding AX flying. Time to watch the stuff fly

reevesofskyking 04-07-2008 08:50 PM

aa.com shows some flights operated by TSA in june out of MIA

Foxcow 04-08-2008 07:17 AM

Very interesting indeed.

ExperimentalAB 04-08-2008 08:05 AM

Never would have guessed AX would be in MIA...never, ever LoL


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