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reevesofskyking 04-08-2008 05:46 PM

I think this could leave to staffing issues.

I am going to have to do some more research, but I just got off the phone with a friend of mine, and he thought there was not really many options to get crews from STL to MIA. This leads me to think TSA will have to DH on mainline flights. It has been my experince that they do not like to do this. I sure there are times they have to, but never had done it for me.

It just seems the way ord and IAD run with crews and the never ending time issues...one more hub that is crew base is just going to make this worse to the point of perhaps appearing understaffed. I am sure in reality it is going to be crew inefficiencies wearing the company understaffing costume.

I really have not heard where the crews are coming from, as said above it does not looke to be RIC, but that would make sense, crew base, and MX base. In the end if they decide not to use the RIC base for any of this, then it is going to get expensive shuttle airframes back and forth for MX.

Just speculation on my part thats all

Reeves

RockyMtnFO 04-08-2008 05:54 PM

Seems like RIC would be more efficient, seeing as how it will be a destination from MIA. It would work similar to how the U.S. Airways ops are done. Into the hub RIC-MIA then start a trip ending on the last day with MIA-RIC.

reevesofskyking 04-08-2008 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by RockyMtnFO (Post 358753)
Seems like RIC would be more efficient, seeing as how it will be a destination from MIA. It would work similar to how the U.S. Airways ops are done. Into the hub RIC-MIA then start a trip ending on the last day with MIA-RIC.

While I agree that makes sense, but dont be surprised if the dont atleast start with STL crews. I would bet this going to have the thought process as someone in the twilight zone in the first weeks/months of ops

flynavyj 04-08-2008 06:42 PM

It'll be interesting to see how this works, i too thought RIC would be the logical choice, especially with all the US Air flying they lost, this could compensate a little, and allow them to get a piece of the american flying. As far being DH'd on mainline, they do it when they "need" to. When they start DH you on United to fly American however, that WILL get codeshares a little upset.

Wonder if they'll just start sending crews to hang out in a MIA hotel and wait for trips, or fly whats there plus reserve coverage...hmmm, could be interesting.

SUSpilot 04-08-2008 07:22 PM

getting crews there from STL will be no problem. Trip would go STL to IND, CLT, or RIC then down into MIA and fly out of MIA for a couple days then go back. Just how we covered SAT for united. STL or RIC to ORD then to OKC, OMA, or TUL then SAT fly out of SAT for a couple days then on the last day work your way back to the domicile the same type of way you made it down. Staffing the SAT flying wasn't a problem until the furloughs and it took 3 legs to get there

Flyby1206 04-09-2008 05:23 AM

Does anyone have the details of the agreement TSA has with AMR to provide flying as AA Connection? I am curious if it states anything about flying outside of STL.

POPA 04-09-2008 06:50 AM

If I were still at TSA, I'd bid reserve and ask to sit hotel RSV in MIA. Nothing like getting paid 4 hrs/day plus per diem to sit on a beach!
Think I can get my old seniority number back if I send my stuff in? :)

flynavyj 04-09-2008 07:23 AM

with your reputation popa, i don't think so....and why does it seem that everyone got 4 hrs of pay while on hotel reserve in RIC but me, i somehow remember getting 5 hrs/ day.....hmmm, that or my memory is going all loopy now 'n days.

POPA 04-09-2008 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 359100)
with your reputation popa, i don't think so....and why does it seem that everyone got 4 hrs of pay while on hotel reserve in RIC but me, i somehow remember getting 5 hrs/ day.....hmmm, that or my memory is going all loopy now 'n days.

If I remember correctly, it was 4 hrs/day min if you got called out while sitting RSV, or 5 hrs/day min if sitting airport RSV regardless of whether you flew. Since I only ever sat hotel RSV in RIC, I only got my four hours (the only time I saw the airport for those times were the DH in and the DH out). I know a few from our group who had to actually sit airport RSV in RIC, so they got the five hours.

bgmann 04-09-2008 03:54 PM

AE is planning on transfering AE flying from MIA to American Connection! "...this move is extremely serious." Whats next?


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