Eagle UG time almost down to 4.5 years..
04-30-2008 | 03:17 PM
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No downgrading YET. Just cancelled upgrade bids. If you don't take the fed ride, you aren't a CA and can't be downgraded. Unless we see a dramatic change, I'd bet at least 3 years for someone hired today to see upgrade. I was hired in July 2007 and I'm betting 3 years for myself.
04-30-2008 | 03:37 PM
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well i suppose it coincides with aircraft orders but a critical factor in upgrade time is the growth or reduction of the flying. AE has a solid chance of losing some its flying if AMR continues with the divestiture.
Also, and this goes with attrition, AE has a lot of guys that got stuck here with the AA flowback and the disastrous post 9-11 years, and a lot of these guys now have no intention of going anywhere for the rest of their careers. They're making close to $100k (I've never understood why that's a magic number for self-contentedness) and are senior and have the inertia of age. It's true that all the regionals have these, but AE has a larger contingency than all others. And this slows upgrade time because a significant part of the captain pool is not in motion.
If letter 3 stuff ever gets sorted out it could have a significant impact if career Eagle guys decide to go to AA. But that's speculation.
Anyway, if things continue as they are now, which never happens, I could see a 4 year upgrade at Eagle. Possibly, just possibly, as low as 3 or 3 1/2 although most of the low time guys won't even have the hours to upgrade in 3 years. There's definitely a large x-factor in there with the divestiture.
Also, and this goes with attrition, AE has a lot of guys that got stuck here with the AA flowback and the disastrous post 9-11 years, and a lot of these guys now have no intention of going anywhere for the rest of their careers. They're making close to $100k (I've never understood why that's a magic number for self-contentedness) and are senior and have the inertia of age. It's true that all the regionals have these, but AE has a larger contingency than all others. And this slows upgrade time because a significant part of the captain pool is not in motion.
If letter 3 stuff ever gets sorted out it could have a significant impact if career Eagle guys decide to go to AA. But that's speculation.
Anyway, if things continue as they are now, which never happens, I could see a 4 year upgrade at Eagle. Possibly, just possibly, as low as 3 or 3 1/2 although most of the low time guys won't even have the hours to upgrade in 3 years. There's definitely a large x-factor in there with the divestiture.
04-30-2008 | 03:40 PM
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No downgrading YET. Just cancelled upgrade bids. If you don't take the fed ride, you aren't a CA and can't be downgraded. Unless we see a dramatic change, I'd bet at least 3 years for someone hired today to see upgrade. I was hired in July 2007 and I'm betting 3 years for myself.
04-30-2008 | 03:49 PM
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04-30-2008 | 04:26 PM
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04-30-2008 | 05:22 PM
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Obviously there is the whole merger thing. Whatever happens, happens. I don't regret leaving XJET. It was a great place to work and I had a blast there, but it wasn't my career goal.
I was a IAH FO from 07/05-12/06, then I was EWR CA from 03/07-11/07. Did ONT for two months before leaving for NWA. Best of Luck to my XE Brothers and Sisters. I still have a lot of friends there, and am keeping my fingers crossed for the best.
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