Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 380371)

Who said anything about the crj200?

You may end up with a big shocker at the end of this year. I doubt anyone at skywest would be mad if the deal doesn't happen, especially considering that Skywest has been awarded the flying regardless.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 380383)

Oh I can't hardly wait to hear this! Could you please state where in writing has CAL assigned flying to skywest. Attention! Attention everyone! Slap is about to post new information about new flying.

Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 380388)

Nothing that hasn't been said already.

Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 380388)

Nothing that hasn't been said already.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 380369)

It almost brings me pleasure to see how much it hurts some folks here that a pilot group and it's union are the one thing that could or could not make this happen, it's too much fun to see how angry you guys get at the thought of our scope.

Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 380410)

wow slap. It really looks like you want XJT to fall. Do you have some sort of problem with airlines that treat their employees like human beings? you're probably one of those people who are counting on Southwest fuel hedging to run out to level the playing field. You should be routing for these airlines. They've raised the bar. Drop the negativity and hope for the best at XJT. Remember, you're just a regional pilot. Quit acting high and mighty because you're company is trying to buy someone else. You have nothing to do with this. It's your bosses. It's your management. Your job is to fly the dang plane.

Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 380420)

I'm just trying to tell you what the probable outcome is and many of you are just to much into the koolaid to listen. Some of you are under the impression that you are in full control of the situation and that xjt will end getting what it wants when you know thats not going to happen.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 380416)

It's not "you guys" it's a tiny a handful of jack*****, the same idiots you will find at any airline (or anywhere else for that matter).

But don't kid yourself...the eventual outcome of this has little to do with unions or scope. Scope gives the XJT group the opportunity to apply some control inputs...it's not likely to change the end result.

If XJT management doesn't get over it's stubborn streak it looks like they will be out of a job, and this isn't a good time for a 50-seat company to be out looking for work.

CAL scope is certainly a factor, but that can resolved in several ways:
1) Get relief from the CAL pilot group.
2) Start a NEW certificate (yes, this has been done before).
3) Buy an existing certificate which has ERJ's on it. I heard ornstien has one of those, and he needs cash badly...and it's already staffed with desperate young pilots who have proven they will do anything to fly an airplane.

The XJTers are still in a position to make a good deal, I think you can keep what you have. But don't reject SKW out of hand and then expect alpa to save your regional butts...not going to happen (I've tried it, it doesn't work).

Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 380371)

Who said anything about the crj200?

You may end up with a big shocker at the end of this year. I doubt anyone at skywest would be mad if the deal doesn't happen, especially considering that Skywest has been awarded the flying regardless.