300tt, 81PIC, 23ME=JOB
02-22-2006 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ryane946
Why would you have 350TT and only 81PIC. How is that possible. Did this guy spend 100hrs on his private, flying dual. Just don't get it.
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02-22-2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Most people have stopped logging training after their private as both PIC and dual recieved. If you log your flight training as both dual recieved and PIC, most airlines will just subtract your dual recieved from your PIC to come up with what they consider your "true PIC". Assuming these times are legit, all the dual recieved for his/her inst/comm/me is logged as JUST dual recieved, not both. It's a better system because most airlines care about who is calling the shots and has "final authority" not who had their feet and hands on the controls.
02-22-2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fosters
When I worked at MAPD in FMN there were plenty of guys who were hired <250TT and 20 ME. It's nothing new there, sorry...it's been that way since 1989 (however they went to the beech back then, not the RJ).
FYI, these guys still go through Mesa's training program (indoc, systems, sim) and don't pay a dime for it. They do pay for their flight training just like everyone else sans military did it. Hell, their A36 goes for what I paid for a 172 when I did my ratings, and their CFI costs are HALF what I paid. Calling this PFT is a bit of a strech IMO...
FYI, these guys still go through Mesa's training program (indoc, systems, sim) and don't pay a dime for it. They do pay for their flight training just like everyone else sans military did it. Hell, their A36 goes for what I paid for a 172 when I did my ratings, and their CFI costs are HALF what I paid. Calling this PFT is a bit of a strech IMO...
Yeah, as far as those things go it is a pretty good deal.
02-23-2006 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Which airlines subtract dual rec from PIC? I don't recall anyone doing that to my times. I logged all dual received as PIC if I was rated in the a/c. Just curious.
I have to admit that my information is second hand and I don't know any specific names, but it makes sense. I think of it this way: if I have a beginning instrument student who can barely keep the airplane upright let alone operate in the IFR environment, should that student really be logging PIC even if they are rated in the aircraft? They more than likely aren't sole manipulator and they definitely aren't the final authority. I guess I don't see when that student was acting as PIC...
02-23-2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
OK, you got me rick I have to admit that my information is second hand and I don't know any specific names, but it makes sense. I think of it this way: if I have a beginning instrument student who can barely keep the airplane upright let alone operate in the IFR environment, should that student really be logging PIC even if they are rated in the aircraft? They more than likely aren't sole manipulator and they definitely aren't the final authority. I guess I don't see when that student was acting as PIC...
I have to admit that my information is second hand and I don't know any specific names, but it makes sense. I think of it this way: if I have a beginning instrument student who can barely keep the airplane upright let alone operate in the IFR environment, should that student really be logging PIC even if they are rated in the aircraft? They more than likely aren't sole manipulator and they definitely aren't the final authority. I guess I don't see when that student was acting as PIC...You'll also be competing with people who logged time in every twin that they came close enough to to read the tail number. Don't shortchange yourself.
"Fly what you can, Log what you need"
02-23-2006 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by edik
Was looking over a web site and this one guy got the job with only 300tt. Just wondering how often this occurs or did the guy just have really good connections? I know its Mesa, but still it is an airline job.
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02-23-2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Didn't CAPT get shut down?
02-23-2006 | 10:33 AM
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yeah, or at least it's getting shut down. And a buddy of mine just got onto Pinnacle with just over 400TT. He said that most the guys at the interview were under 1000. I think that this is some of these regionals plan. Hire when they have really low time, that way they don't have enough hours to go anywhere else and we can pay and treat them like crap.
02-23-2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Which airlines subtract dual rec from PIC? I don't recall anyone doing that to my times. I logged all dual received as PIC if I was rated in the a/c. Just curious.
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