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Old 06-04-2008, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkflyer View Post
What will happen to all these people if they are still FOs if their company puts them out on the streets.. Oh Geezz they will just go back to Mom and Dad..

That is grossly simplistic. I never had a CFI ticket, and I won't be going back to mommy and daddy.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:44 AM
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Move to vegas and work for a grand canyon tour company! (company that operates 402s) It's one way to learn by making decisions on your own while carrying pax!!!
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:53 AM
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That is grossly simplistic. I never had a CFI ticket, and I won't be going back to mommy and daddy.
Tony My attempt at Sarcasm is really lacking...
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:02 AM
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Agreed with the posts on here, get that MEI, there are a number of people I know around the regional world that do not even have a CFI...Get paid to build time and not pay for it, with fuel being so high I can't imagine you'll be able to find a very good rate on a twin anyways....

Some CFI's are the worst airline pilots I have flown with. 1000 hours of day VFR around the pattern doesnt do much in a jet shooting an approach to mins in a blizzard.

Sometimes its a matter of being in the right place at the right time, without having to buy your flight time. Then you wont need a CFI and can have just as good quality, if not better flight time doing things besides instruction.

Before I get accused of CFI bashing, I'm not....just showing another side of the story. There's more than one route to quality flight time, some are just harder/luckier to find than others. But a blanket statement that a CFI should be required for an airline job is a little too far out there..
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:12 AM
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Some CFI's are the worst airline pilots I have flown with. 1000 hours of day VFR around the pattern doesnt do much in a jet shooting an approach to mins in a blizzard.

Sometimes its a matter of being in the right place at the right time, without having to buy your flight time. Then you wont need a CFI and can have just as good quality, if not better flight time doing things besides instruction.

Before I get accused of CFI bashing, I'm not....just showing another side of the story. There's more than one route to quality flight time, some are just harder/luckier to find than others. But a blanket statement that a CFI should be required for an airline job is a little too far out there..
I agree with your statement. However, it depends on the CFI background really. If a CFI wasn't inhibited by the SOP of a large 141 school then he/she might have taken students into the soup for instrument training. I did this as much as I could, but in FL, it was like chasing rainbows by and large.

You've got to be pretty sharp to fly IMC with a new student, stay on top of everything and teach at the same time.

But, by and large, most instruction, especially in FL is hours and hours of flying the circuit. I did 22 touch and gos one afternoon in one flight back to back preparing a student for solo. Thats more like the kind of flying you get.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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AirNet has a paid time building SIC Program, You have a one year contract but it will allow you to gain some valuable experience and then when the airlines settle down you can go out and get hired. O yea lots of multi time building from what I hear.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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Honestly, if you want to build some multi time and have fun doing it Cape Air is where it's at....
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:09 PM
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I see that many of you suggest getting the MEI and getting time that way. Do you have any suggestiong for someone that cant move for family reasons and the nearest multi rental FBO is about a 4 hour drive? Maybe see if they would let me teach when I can make it there? Would they hire someone like that? I would love to move to FL and teach, but I just cant right now in time
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
Some CFI's are the worst airline pilots I have flown with. 1000 hours of day VFR around the pattern doesnt do much in a jet shooting an approach to mins in a blizzard.

Sometimes its a matter of being in the right place at the right time, without having to buy your flight time. Then you wont need a CFI and can have just as good quality, if not better flight time doing things besides instruction.

Before I get accused of CFI bashing, I'm not....just showing another side of the story. There's more than one route to quality flight time, some are just harder/luckier to find than others. But a blanket statement that a CFI should be required for an airline job is a little too far out there..
But when they upgrade and they now have to watch/teach/mentor the FO now in that position, they'll be better prepared because of the CFI.

Where are piston flyers supposed to become experienced flying faster equipment before going to the airlines?

Last time I check I couldn't get a job instructing an a jet down to minimums in a blizzard.

The learning curve will always be there, except for the "luckier" pilot who can find that golden job, yet there will always be a captain saying what you have said.





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Old 06-07-2008, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jesduke1102 View Post
thank you every one. I understand every ones point and I have looked at it in detail. The issue is I dont have the 15 PIC for MEI and I am in a decent CFII job (500 dual given 750 tt, not the 250 hour CFI wonder), I know I missed the window I just am looking for some one to split that time with so I might get my MEI. If there is any one interested PM me please. thank you
You can log PIC and Dual Given while getting your MEI instruction flights. two birds with one stone!
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