Building Multi Time for Regionals
06-07-2008, 06:51 AM
#32
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Join the military.. with your hours, you'll probably get your choice of airframes right out of flight school. The best flying you will ever see.. the books written about it don't even do it justice. When I tell some of my civ friends what we do.. they just have this blank look on their face like they can't even comprehend what was just said.. Go for it.. you have nothing to lose and everything to gain,, Doesn't matter what you fly or in what branch.. all great stuff.
You're talking about 25 hours in a piston twin when you could be talking about cat shots off the front of a carrier loaded to bare with enough weapons to do some serious population control and landscaping.. or flying a helicopter into the mountains to pickup a downed pilot with your crewmen locked and loaded with miniguns and hellfires. The Navy C-2 COD pilots trap on the carrier all day then party like rock stars in hotels in Hong Kong, Bahrain, HI, and Australia..
Think past leveling off at FL 360 on autopilot and calling KC center to ask about ride reports so some idiot doesn't spill his coke. You can do that after you get your retirement check... Then you can tell this industry to kiss your A$$ and go live on the beach in a hammock.. How's that for a plan B ?
You're talking about 25 hours in a piston twin when you could be talking about cat shots off the front of a carrier loaded to bare with enough weapons to do some serious population control and landscaping.. or flying a helicopter into the mountains to pickup a downed pilot with your crewmen locked and loaded with miniguns and hellfires. The Navy C-2 COD pilots trap on the carrier all day then party like rock stars in hotels in Hong Kong, Bahrain, HI, and Australia..
Think past leveling off at FL 360 on autopilot and calling KC center to ask about ride reports so some idiot doesn't spill his coke. You can do that after you get your retirement check... Then you can tell this industry to kiss your A$$ and go live on the beach in a hammock.. How's that for a plan B ?
Last edited by cruiseclimb; 06-07-2008 at 07:03 AM.
06-07-2008, 07:17 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by cruiseclimb
Join the military.. with your hours, you'll probably get your choice of airframes right out of flight school. The best flying you will ever see.. the books written about it don't even do it justice. When I tell some of my civ friends what we do.. they just have this blank look on their face like they can't even comprehend what was just said.. Go for it.. you have nothing to lose and everything to gain,, Doesn't matter what you fly or in what branch.. all great stuff.
You're talking about 25 hours in a piston twin when you could be talking about cat shots off the front of a carrier loaded to bare with enough weapons to do some serious population control and landscaping.. or flying a helicopter into the mountains to pickup a downed pilot with your crewmen locked and loaded with miniguns and hellfires. The Navy C-2 COD pilots trap on the carrier all day then party like rock stars in hotels in Hong Kong, Bahrain, HI, and Australia..
Think past leveling off at FL 360 on autopilot and calling KC center to ask about ride reports so some idiot doesn't spill his coke. You can do that after you get your retirement check... Then you can tell this industry to kiss your A$$ and go live on the beach in a hammock.. How's that for a plan B ?
You're talking about 25 hours in a piston twin when you could be talking about cat shots off the front of a carrier loaded to bare with enough weapons to do some serious population control and landscaping.. or flying a helicopter into the mountains to pickup a downed pilot with your crewmen locked and loaded with miniguns and hellfires. The Navy C-2 COD pilots trap on the carrier all day then party like rock stars in hotels in Hong Kong, Bahrain, HI, and Australia..
Think past leveling off at FL 360 on autopilot and calling KC center to ask about ride reports so some idiot doesn't spill his coke. You can do that after you get your retirement check... Then you can tell this industry to kiss your A$$ and go live on the beach in a hammock.. How's that for a plan B ?
06-07-2008, 07:25 AM
#34
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If anyone here seriously considers military flying.. You can't just go to the local recruiting office to sign up. Officers are recruited at the MEP center. That's the main recruiting office for a region. if it's not an officer signing you up.. he's probably lying to you. I've heard stories of guys walking into the local recruiting office at the strip mall and being told they go through basic training as an enlisted and go fly later.. not how it happens.
You go to officer school and then flight school, signed up by an officer to be an officer. If you don't have a four year degree, you can fly helicopters in the Army.. good flying, but the least desirable of the military flying simply because of quality of life. PM me if you have any questions.
There is allot of sacrifice as well. I thought it was worth it. Start a thread here and ask the questions. Lots of former military guys here to give inputs..
You go to officer school and then flight school, signed up by an officer to be an officer. If you don't have a four year degree, you can fly helicopters in the Army.. good flying, but the least desirable of the military flying simply because of quality of life. PM me if you have any questions.
There is allot of sacrifice as well. I thought it was worth it. Start a thread here and ask the questions. Lots of former military guys here to give inputs..
06-07-2008, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by OscarOscar
But when they upgrade and they now have to watch/teach/mentor the FO now in that position, they'll be better prepared because of the CFI.
Where are piston flyers supposed to become experienced flying faster equipment before going to the airlines?
Last time I check I couldn't get a job instructing an a jet down to minimums in a blizzard.
The learning curve will always be there, except for the "luckier" pilot who can find that golden job, yet there will always be a captain saying what you have said.
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Where are piston flyers supposed to become experienced flying faster equipment before going to the airlines?
Last time I check I couldn't get a job instructing an a jet down to minimums in a blizzard.
The learning curve will always be there, except for the "luckier" pilot who can find that golden job, yet there will always be a captain saying what you have said.
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06-07-2008, 07:39 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by OscarOscar
Last time I check I couldn't get a job instructing an a jet down to minimums in a blizzard.
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Last edited by mooney; 06-07-2008 at 07:44 AM.
06-07-2008, 07:42 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by cruiseclimb
You're talking about 25 hours in a piston twin when you could be talking about cat shots off the front of a carrier loaded to bare with enough weapons to do some serious population control and landscaping.. or flying a helicopter into the mountains to pickup a downed pilot with your crewmen locked and loaded with miniguns and hellfires. The Navy C-2 COD pilots trap on the carrier all day then party like rock stars in hotels in Hong Kong, Bahrain, HI, and Australia..
06-07-2008, 08:23 AM
#38
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CFI experience is good for entry-level civilian pilots because most are young...it gives them an opportunity to get a little PIC in a commercial environment where you have competing priorities and pressures. You learn a little about responsibility, leadership, and complacency...
1000 hours of CFI is enough time to get complacent (around 400 hours), and then have the poop scared out of you later...which puts complacency in perspective. Civilians who have never worked in a high-risk business (military, LE, diving, fire-fighting, etc) will almost invariably become complacent in the cockpit if nothing exciting happens to them.
The cockpit feels like the inside of their car...but operating an airplane is really more like riding a motorcycle in traffic. If you hit something or lose control, you're screwed.
Older career-changers usually don't suffer if they skip CFI.
1000 hours of CFI is enough time to get complacent (around 400 hours), and then have the poop scared out of you later...which puts complacency in perspective. Civilians who have never worked in a high-risk business (military, LE, diving, fire-fighting, etc) will almost invariably become complacent in the cockpit if nothing exciting happens to them.
The cockpit feels like the inside of their car...but operating an airplane is really more like riding a motorcycle in traffic. If you hit something or lose control, you're screwed.
Older career-changers usually don't suffer if they skip CFI.
06-07-2008, 08:47 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by mooney
You took my statement and turned it into a blanket statement without reading what I was responding to, which was that all regional pilots should be required to have CFI.
Originally Posted by mooney
reread what I said , and I think you will find that you just repeated my statement. That CFI'ing won't prepare you for that.
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