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06-06-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"An airline not doing a checkride oral is setting themselves up for possible problems."
Kinda like UPS?
Kinda like UPS?
06-06-2008, 08:30 PM
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Not sure what standard you want to see to set industry standard, but this is the direction AQP is going. AQP is a program advanced and approved by the FAA. United, NWA, UPS, and who knows who else, is going in this direction.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, as I believe you need to study harder to pass a real live oral, but I believe AQP is the wave of the future for those who can get the approval for it. Saves money. Airlines like it.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, as I believe you need to study harder to pass a real live oral, but I believe AQP is the wave of the future for those who can get the approval for it. Saves money. Airlines like it.
06-06-2008, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"An airline not doing a checkride oral is setting themselves up for possible problems."
Kinda like UPS?
Kinda like UPS?
I just don't want the people unfamiliar with AQP to think that it gets rid of orals and check rides.
06-06-2008, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
Not sure what standard you want to see to set industry standard, but this is the direction AQP is going. AQP is a program advanced and approved by the FAA. United, NWA, UPS, and who knows who else, is going in this direction.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, as I believe you need to study harder to pass a real live oral, but I believe AQP is the wave of the future for those who can get the approval for it. Saves money. Airlines like it.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, as I believe you need to study harder to pass a real live oral, but I believe AQP is the wave of the future for those who can get the approval for it. Saves money. Airlines like it.
06-06-2008, 09:25 PM
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I'm not sure. I did it old school.
They say on the F/O side, now, you take a written test insead of an oral. Is that what you are calling "systems validation". If so, it's far removed from an oral. I know the F/O's I talked to did a written test instead of an oral.
They say on the F/O side, now, you take a written test insead of an oral. Is that what you are calling "systems validation". If so, it's far removed from an oral. I know the F/O's I talked to did a written test instead of an oral.
06-06-2008, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
I'm not sure. I did it old school.
They say on the F/O side, now, you take a written test insead of an oral. Is that what you are calling "systems validation". If so, it's far removed from an oral. I know the F/O's I talked to did a written test instead of an oral.
They say on the F/O side, now, you take a written test insead of an oral. Is that what you are calling "systems validation". If so, it's far removed from an oral. I know the F/O's I talked to did a written test instead of an oral.
Back to the thread, I believe there was a FedEx class back in like '95 that had to all come back in after ground school and re-take their systems test. Apparently there had been a 'leak.'
06-07-2008, 02:52 AM
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i know the value of study... the last type oral i took was easy because i spent three months preparing, studying at least an hour a day. for me that is the effort it took...... no problem here with old fashion orals...some MC tests are actually confusing and unclear....questions vague and ambiguous.
06-07-2008, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
Not sure what standard you want to see to set industry standard, but this is the direction AQP is going. AQP is a program advanced and approved by the FAA. United, NWA, UPS, and who knows who else, is going in this direction.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, as I believe you need to study harder to pass a real live oral, but I believe AQP is the wave of the future for those who can get the approval for it. Saves money. Airlines like it.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, as I believe you need to study harder to pass a real live oral, but I believe AQP is the wave of the future for those who can get the approval for it. Saves money. Airlines like it.
06-07-2008, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by md11phlyer
Would you not call a Systems Validation an oral? It may not be the day of the check ride but it is still an oral. Just like a Maneuvers Validation is like the old 'check ride' and the LOE is the old Qual Loft.
I just don't want the people unfamiliar with AQP to think that it gets rid of orals and check rides.
I just don't want the people unfamiliar with AQP to think that it gets rid of orals and check rides.
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