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06-16-2008 | 04:51 PM

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God I hope your right...or at least my 31 gallon tank does

haha yea I laugh at the people that think there really is an "OIL SHORTAGE", its the type of people that made millions off of people foreclosing on their homes that are dumping money into OIL, hence the outrageous price, so essentially its SPECULATION/GREED, we used around 4% less oil this year (ytd) then we did last year, so the demand is going down, the supply is raising steadily, yet the price is JUMPING way way up.....just doesn't add up and it will come to a crashing halt soon, hopefully sooner rather then later

Thats the problem with this COUNTRY----------------> GREED. I just hope when this OIL BOOM comes crashing down the Government doesn't jump in to save these GREEDY investment firms etc................

06-16-2008 | 05:00 PM

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God I hope your right...or at least my 31 gallon tank does

Dang!!! With a tank that big you should be hedging your fuel!

06-16-2008 | 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MudPupppy

June 11 CAL 8K Fleet plan through 2010 calls for only the origional 15 Qs. More bad news for PNCL corp? The 2009 options were supposed to be decided 2 months ago, looks like they finally decided. I doubt UAL will pick up the 2009 options seeing that they are worse off than CAL.

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...008_061101.pdf

So, when are the furloughs coming?

06-16-2008 | 05:13 PM

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So, when are the furloughs coming?

I'm thinking this fall there will be an announcement that USAIR and UA flying is being reduced and some saabs are going away. 4th Q 2008 maybe some furloughs, out of seniority of course so they don't have to furlough junior Q guys and spend $$ training Saab FOs.

Again, I hope i'm wrong but phildo has suggested to investors Colgan's Saab flying being reduced later this year cause of market conditions and if no Qs arriving in 2009...the writing is on the wall.

06-16-2008 | 06:37 PM

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Well guys, everyone needs to hang in there, the price of OIL will drop quicker then a Strippers panties at a Bachelor party.............just going to take some time. The price is ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED, and like anything else (Dot.com boom/bust, & Housing market), OIL too will drop dramatically, It will just be a matter of who is still standing when it does............

Man I hope so. But unlike any other commodity, the demand will never drop (at least until new technology becomes mainstream worldwide). So if the demand is always there, despite the inflated price, there is no reason the crazy speculation won't continue.

At least not until the market REALLY crashes because of the oil price affecting everything else, and those who were making money in oil lose more money elsewhere than they're making. Then maybe it will drop.

06-16-2008 | 08:20 PM

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Here is the fleet plan. No more 135's as ExpressJet brings back some 145's from our other ops. I guess this is another official word on all the CRJ-200's being phased out as well. Hopefully Republic can just be straight up with my buddy who is a IAH CRJ FO. He said they won't tell them the official status of the IAH CRJ base there being around. The least they could do is tell those guys they probably will have to move or transition to a different aircraft.

I'm willing to bet RAH doesn't have a good answer at the moment. It has been the intention since the CRJs were brought on property to be short term. The uncertainty now is if 224 ERJs means 190 ExpressJet + 34 CHQ (there are currently 24 CRJ/20 ERJ) or CAL gives the ERJs being returned by ExpressJet to another regional. Its 100% (well, as 100% as 100% can be in aviation) that they will transition, whether they are moved within CHQ to the 145 or to RW/S5 for the 170 is anyone's guess.

06-16-2008 | 11:08 PM

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Read the bottom of page six on the document posted by the original poster. It says that at year end 2008 there will be 195 ERJ145s (175 for XJT and 20 for CHQ), 30 ERJ135 (all XJT), and 17 CRJ200s (all CHQ). At year end 2009 there will be 234 ERJ145 (20 for CHQ and between 190-205 for XJT, although coincidentally XJT may return up to 39 ERJ145s to CAL; also XJT has "last look" rights on any CAL flying for those aircraft), 0 ERJ135s, and 7 CRJ200s (all CHQ). At year end 2010 there will be 224 ERJ145s (20 for CHQ and between 190-205 for XJT), 0 ERJ135s, and 0 CRJ200s.

I extrapolated the breakdown numbers from the current CPAs that CAL has with XJT and CHQ.

06-17-2008 | 05:16 AM

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Why dont the CJC saabs or the Cape 402s or the Gulfstream a/c show up on that list?

06-17-2008 | 06:09 AM

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Why dont the CJC saabs or the Cape 402s or the Gulfstream a/c show up on that list?

The fleet plans only include capacity purchase agreements. Colgan saabs, glufstream and Cape 402s are not capacity purchase thats why they don't show up.

The operate essentially as code shares...