Ughhh....It Starts at AWAC
06-21-2008, 02:12 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. "
06-21-2008, 02:48 PM
#22
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I think it will depend on the actual block hour numbers when the company finally discloses the information from Airways. So far it has been rumor mill and the management has done a poor job explaining why TWOP is needed. Has our August flying been reduced or are we over staffed?
A fall reduction and possible furloughs would depend on what the company and the union can come up with in terms of cost netural solutions to minimize the bad news.
There is no way Airways will give the 50 seat flying back even if oil comes down. Some communication from ATW would be nice! My guess is that we will not know for a few more weeks until the company and union meet.
A fall reduction and possible furloughs would depend on what the company and the union can come up with in terms of cost netural solutions to minimize the bad news.
There is no way Airways will give the 50 seat flying back even if oil comes down. Some communication from ATW would be nice! My guess is that we will not know for a few more weeks until the company and union meet.
06-22-2008, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
Too bad my man Fred Thompson didn't go too far in the Presidential race.
Yup, I am sure he would have been able to bring sanity to the oil commodities market. And get badly run airlines to run better.
Airlines hire based on attrition or expected attrition. Obviously, due to the fact that nobody is hiring AWAC's attrition has sharply dropped. So we are fat on staff at the moment. As attrition continues at several per month this situation will change.
Even last month five captains senior to myself left AWAC. And my seniority is not bad.
I think a very senior ORF captain is retiring in July and some others may follow later in the year.
06-22-2008, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
Yup, I am sure he would have been able to bring sanity to the oil commodities market. And get badly run airlines to run better.
Airlines hire based on attrition or expected attrition. Obviously, due to the fact that nobody is hiring AWAC's attrition has sharply dropped. So we are fat on staff at the moment. As attrition continues at several per month this situation will change.
Even last month five captains senior to myself left AWAC. And my seniority is not bad.
I think a very senior ORF captain is retiring in July and some others may follow later in the year.
Airlines hire based on attrition or expected attrition. Obviously, due to the fact that nobody is hiring AWAC's attrition has sharply dropped. So we are fat on staff at the moment. As attrition continues at several per month this situation will change.
Even last month five captains senior to myself left AWAC. And my seniority is not bad.
I think a very senior ORF captain is retiring in July and some others may follow later in the year.
06-22-2008, 11:18 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
Too bad my man Fred Thompson didn't go too far in the Presidential race.
06-22-2008, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by IFly85
I really hope we can make it through this without furloughing...
Fingers crossed sitting about 30-40 from the bottom
Fingers crossed sitting about 30-40 from the bottom
06-22-2008, 02:49 PM
#29
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Yeah, that's what I heard through the rumor mill that our flying would be reduced in the fall. I kind of expected that the TOWOP might occur in the fall but not in August. hhhmmm...
Working on coming up with a plan B though, just in case.
Working on coming up with a plan B though, just in case.
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