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03-18-2010 | 03:49 PM
#1461
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03-18-2010 | 06:00 PM
#1463
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From: A320/321
To all Piedmont furloughees:
I am writing to you because your union reps as well as management have turned a blind eye to you. There are some of you who should no longer be on furlough due to contractual obligations that the company is not following.
SECTION 25 SCHEDULING:
C.2.a.
Hard lines of time shall, whenever possible, be constructed with between
seventy-five (75) hours of pay credit and eighty-five (85) hours of pay credit, including deadhead time. Hard lines of time shall be constructed with no more than ninety (90) hours of pay credit, including deadhead time.
Flight support has built lines to an average of 88-89 hrs credit for at least the past three months. (its probably been happening much longer.) 126 hard lines x 4 hrs over = 504 hours over. This equates to 6 more hard lines. Again, this is if they are maxing every hard line out to 85 hrs pay credit. If you add in the CA lines, that's 6 more upgrades, and 12 FO's brought back from furlough. I realize there is weak language such as "whenever possible." However, when all 252 pilot hard lines system wide are built over the 85 hrs month after month, our union has a strong case against the company for not adhering to the CBA. Building the majority of hard lines under 85 hrs is very much possible. The sole reason for the company over scheduling all the hard lines is to minimize pilot staffing, and cut cost. I completely understand this from a business standpoint. However, nowhere in 25.C.2.a does it say "hard lines may be scheduled over 85 hrs if it makes good business sense, and maximizes revenue. The intent of the section is to protect our jobs, and keep the company from working us to death.
I have personally brought this issue up to three different union reps on behalf of all of you that are furloughed, and I am not the only one. Each time, a careless attitude has been displayed. i.e. we're too busy with negotiations, that would take credit hrs away from all hard line holders, its been like that forever; I'm sorry, but those answers are selfish, and unacceptable. You furloughed brothers are without jobs, and getting you back to work should be a priority of your MEC.
I encourage all of you to call your union reps immediately. File a grievance.(which the MEC should have done long ago.).
Personally, I feel you all deserve an apology from management, and your MEC, as well as some back pay. This regular and accepted, practice of over-scheduling is as bad if not worse than individual pilots picking up extra open time during a time of furlough.
Best of luck to all of you, and I hope to see all that wish to return back here soon.
I am writing to you because your union reps as well as management have turned a blind eye to you. There are some of you who should no longer be on furlough due to contractual obligations that the company is not following.
SECTION 25 SCHEDULING:
C.2.a.
Hard lines of time shall, whenever possible, be constructed with between
seventy-five (75) hours of pay credit and eighty-five (85) hours of pay credit, including deadhead time. Hard lines of time shall be constructed with no more than ninety (90) hours of pay credit, including deadhead time.
Flight support has built lines to an average of 88-89 hrs credit for at least the past three months. (its probably been happening much longer.) 126 hard lines x 4 hrs over = 504 hours over. This equates to 6 more hard lines. Again, this is if they are maxing every hard line out to 85 hrs pay credit. If you add in the CA lines, that's 6 more upgrades, and 12 FO's brought back from furlough. I realize there is weak language such as "whenever possible." However, when all 252 pilot hard lines system wide are built over the 85 hrs month after month, our union has a strong case against the company for not adhering to the CBA. Building the majority of hard lines under 85 hrs is very much possible. The sole reason for the company over scheduling all the hard lines is to minimize pilot staffing, and cut cost. I completely understand this from a business standpoint. However, nowhere in 25.C.2.a does it say "hard lines may be scheduled over 85 hrs if it makes good business sense, and maximizes revenue. The intent of the section is to protect our jobs, and keep the company from working us to death.
I have personally brought this issue up to three different union reps on behalf of all of you that are furloughed, and I am not the only one. Each time, a careless attitude has been displayed. i.e. we're too busy with negotiations, that would take credit hrs away from all hard line holders, its been like that forever; I'm sorry, but those answers are selfish, and unacceptable. You furloughed brothers are without jobs, and getting you back to work should be a priority of your MEC.
I encourage all of you to call your union reps immediately. File a grievance.(which the MEC should have done long ago.).
Personally, I feel you all deserve an apology from management, and your MEC, as well as some back pay. This regular and accepted, practice of over-scheduling is as bad if not worse than individual pilots picking up extra open time during a time of furlough.
Best of luck to all of you, and I hope to see all that wish to return back here soon.
Our Reps need to address this. If they need me to cover their flying so they can work on this so be it.
03-19-2010 | 08:34 AM
#1465
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03-21-2010 | 01:16 PM
#1466
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So nothing great in Ask PDT, only question I thought worth sharing
Q. Its great to hear about recalls and possibly upgrades to cover additional summer flying. But what happens after the summer when we decrease our flying again? Do we furlough and downgrade again?
A. We are working with the guys at Airways that schedule our fleet so that we don't have a big spike up in the summer followed by falling off the cliff in the fall. As I stands now, our fall schedule is basically our summer schedule with some Saturday and day of the week cancellations so I don't think we will have to furlough and downgrade in the fall. Steve
Q. Its great to hear about recalls and possibly upgrades to cover additional summer flying. But what happens after the summer when we decrease our flying again? Do we furlough and downgrade again?
A. We are working with the guys at Airways that schedule our fleet so that we don't have a big spike up in the summer followed by falling off the cliff in the fall. As I stands now, our fall schedule is basically our summer schedule with some Saturday and day of the week cancellations so I don't think we will have to furlough and downgrade in the fall. Steve
03-21-2010 | 01:28 PM
#1467
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Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Dash 8
Potentially not furloughing again in the fall is great news, but it still leaves the million dollar question: how many recalls and when will they start making calls?
It's been over a month since I ran into Chuck M. and him saying Jim was working on the numbers and that ALPA expected we'd hear "soon" and that everyone would be "pleasantly surprised" at the recall numbers. How much longer is "soon?"
It's been over a month since I ran into Chuck M. and him saying Jim was working on the numbers and that ALPA expected we'd hear "soon" and that everyone would be "pleasantly surprised" at the recall numbers. How much longer is "soon?"
03-21-2010 | 02:23 PM
#1468
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Joined: Apr 2009
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So nothing great in Ask PDT, only question I thought worth sharing
Q. Its great to hear about recalls and possibly upgrades to cover additional summer flying. But what happens after the summer when we decrease our flying again? Do we furlough and downgrade again?
A. We are working with the guys at Airways that schedule our fleet so that we don't have a big spike up in the summer followed by falling off the cliff in the fall. As I stands now, our fall schedule is basically our summer schedule with some Saturday and day of the week cancellations so I don't think we will have to furlough and downgrade in the fall. Steve
Q. Its great to hear about recalls and possibly upgrades to cover additional summer flying. But what happens after the summer when we decrease our flying again? Do we furlough and downgrade again?
A. We are working with the guys at Airways that schedule our fleet so that we don't have a big spike up in the summer followed by falling off the cliff in the fall. As I stands now, our fall schedule is basically our summer schedule with some Saturday and day of the week cancellations so I don't think we will have to furlough and downgrade in the fall. Steve
03-21-2010 | 03:26 PM
#1469
Don't need that HUD!
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 321
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From: B787 FO
Proof?
From a question in todays Ask Piedmont: "USairways has a RFP out for Mesa's 900 flying."
Does anyone have any significant proof that this has indeed happened? Information from a website somewhere? A press release perhaps?
I'm just curious if Airways is truly playing hardball with the large RJ flying by putting out a RFP while Mesa continues to swim with the fishes in bankruptcy court. It's interesting that mainline would be putting out an RFP for Mesa's flying, while PDT keeps saying that the status of the PHX Dash-8 flying is dependent upon various outcomes in Mesa's bankruptcy case.
Does anyone have any significant proof that this has indeed happened? Information from a website somewhere? A press release perhaps?
I'm just curious if Airways is truly playing hardball with the large RJ flying by putting out a RFP while Mesa continues to swim with the fishes in bankruptcy court. It's interesting that mainline would be putting out an RFP for Mesa's flying, while PDT keeps saying that the status of the PHX Dash-8 flying is dependent upon various outcomes in Mesa's bankruptcy case.
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