Crawl

No worries, I hear those 175's practically fly themselves, so the new training program should be a breeze

wrox

I'm rescinding my resume from them. I was treated better when I worked at Home Depot years ago. (and made more)

starcheckers

Huh? Is that even true?

OneEye

Actually, I did what you do. I viewed his post history and observed he had training problems at RAH and was terminated. The pilots in that forum ate him alive. I'm sure there is some truth in his posts but I'm just as sure there is also some fiction thrown in.

block30

Which is fine for calling out that individual. However, I have heard personally and by way of the forums that something is up in the training dept. Seeing someone come on here and bascially do a one man campaign defending the training department is suspicious.

frmrdashtrash

He's not the only one defending the training dept on here. I'll always say there are some deficiencies, but for the most part they do a good job.

I really think some math is required to fully evaluate what's happening, and been the case in the past is the background of the applicant, level of preparedness, and overall maturity level. That, and the internet message board factor. Most who get through training with no issues aren't going to come on here and complain about it.....

Piedmont has been a dying airline for several years now flying an airplane most people don't want to fly with an outdated basing model. In other words, "who the hell would want to fly for Piedmont right now....". Unless training department standards are lowered to reflect this, the washout rate is going to remain high.

I have to wonder why any experienced pilot would be at Piedmont if he doesn't live in one of the bases. Makes me wonder about the quality of the applicants available to the company.

BE19Pilot

I agree with a good portion of what you say, however, there is more than a shred of truth that the intra-department relationship is toxic...When you have the DoT walk into class and say, "All you new-hires GTFO", and then within days the chief pilots both show up for a meeting with the new-hires to rally them to write letters corporate to censure this individual. That is a HUGE RED FLAG. In fact, I knew that when there was no formal introduction of the training department staff in CLT that this place was "different" and the rumors had some truth. This class had former 121 pilots, a former USAF Major that was a Minuteman missile launch control officer and C-141 FE (during his enlisted career).
Are there good instructors. Absolutely no doubt, are there a couple that shouldn't be teaching pilots let alone teaching how to wire a 3-wire doorbell, absolutely. The crap goes on here, because it is a reflection of the overall apathy of the employees to a large extent. It is all coming to head because of one very important reason, lack of leadership. No question about that in my mind, and in my military mind I cannot see how it has been allowed to continue by corporate. They are not ignorant of a good portion of what is going on. But, kicking the can down the road in the interest of their own self-interest and their fragile egos.
None of what I have said here is hearsay, I was there...I stood up and told the CP exactly what I saw that started this entire ugly, unfortunate incident. So, after reading the manifesto of the pilot that had an unfortunate training experience I wasn't completely skeptical of either his situation of what is going on. And, the other things he described while rather shocking, I cannot say that I am surprised.
I am one of those poor basta*rds you described as being foolish enough to come here because I live in-base, I am a single-parent and there is very little that I have to loose. Perhaps you might know me? I hope that I demonstrated that I still give 100% in the cockpit...I have already lost everything. You can't kick anyone that is still on the ground. So, at this point I feel that one has to try and stand-up for what is right and let the chips fall where they may.

frmrdashtrash

BE19, I think I bailed from there before you were hired, but I believe you rode with me a couple of times while you were at another airline?

No argument from me about JK. That issue has been ongoing for years. It started getting very interested the last time I went through CQ, but not with the CQ class. It had more to do with new hires taking 20+ sim sessions and 80+ cycles of SOE (which by the way sounds exactly opposite of a training dept looking to boot people out of it). That would be frustrating to anyone in charge of it....

BE19Pilot

Yes, I am 9L/9E refugee. And, first of all thanks for the JS rides to work! Ironically, I am not completely unhappy working here...I enjoy flying the DASH, and it is the last of this kind of 121 flying left. We are basically making history every time we take-off in the 100.
Like my previous employer, 9L had many systemic problems that led to it's demise. We had the wrong people in the wrong positions of leadership and at the wrong time making often short-sighted and bad decisions without fully evaluating the consequences and outcomes... ZERO synergy...AND, a total CRM/TEM fail in HR, operations, training and financial/cost controls.
Sometimes in business, the military and government a culture can exist within an organization that is counter-productive to the overall success of a unit. Metaphorically speaking, when this happens, it is time to relieve the person in command and put someone in place that can LEAD the personnel, establish and foster a positive working environment. Get the ship back on course. Politics being what it is in this organization will make a "command decision" on the part of corporate extremely difficult.

frmrdashtrash

Perfect summation.....