For anyone who has taken the written at Mesa recently, are their Weight and Balance questions from the ATP just curious, since I'm prepping....I had my ATP on lock in June for Comair interview but then we all know how that ended up for everyone....

Best post on this entire thread.

Same team here but am looking for some clarification on your post.

You didn't have to come to the airport until 9:15, and was released at 3 am. 6:15 on "duty" by my count. The other 9:45, you should have been at your crashpad sleeping, watching TV, APC-ing etc.

Don't let your bitterness towards Mesa paint an unrealistic picture of what the rest of us deal with everyday.

If I'm at a crash pad unable to drink then that sounds like duty time to me. Who said I'm bitter? That was just one example of a very realistic day I had at Mesa. I unfortunately have had plenty other days not as good as that one.

Apologize for assuming. Good luck to you guys at Freedom.

ok,......just out of interest how many guys are going to this open house gig in the morning in ord

"upgrade at mesa?...those days are over you will be riding that turd of an airline until it goes belly up and never upgrade...."

I was hired 10 Mar 08 for the DHC8. I am scheduled for upgrade training on 3 Sep 08. Today, upgrades can be quick for those that already have met ATP minimums. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

Outstanding! In the midst of all of the blah blah about "my sub par pay is better than your sub-er par pay", "my fatigue-inducing schedule is better than your slightly more fatiguing schedule", etc, it is a relief to hear some real solidarity.

The MAG MEC is working hard on significant contract improvements. They face an uphill fight dealing with a very tightwad company during a very labor-hostile period for our nation.

I think a strike is unlikely because I do not think the current president will allow one to occur under the LRA. If I remember correctly, when another airline strike was looming, the White House stated that if the pilots struck, their FAA certificates would be revoked.

What are the key points on the table for this round of contract negotiations?

1. Block or better.
2. Trip rigs - minimum pay for a days work.
3. Duty rigs - stipulations regarding duty periods and compensation.
4. More days off per bid period for lineholders and reserves.
5. A raise.
6. Increase in training pay.
7. Full deadhead pay (currently 50%).

At an absolute bare minimum, I want to see #'s 1,4, 5 and 7.

I'm confident that the rest of the pilot group will not vote in a contract with any less.