better add #3 unless u like the 3hr sits

Yet el presidente will allow airlines to cease operations. . . I think the current one is a lame duck and the next one will have much larger things to worry about than a bottom-rate regional airline's ****ing contest with its employees. Of course, a CEO can always bankrupt the company, close the doors, and form a new company. "What strike?"

I still don't quite understand but what exactly does the whole "block or better" thing actually mean?

Also how hard is it to get Chicago? I have heard its pretty junior...

It could be hard for block or better... in CLT we all hear you all calling out the gate 15-20min before you push to keep your ontime performance lookin good... but now your out to in is a nice big block compared to anyone else... i dont think the efficiency there will help out much in negotiating for that part... good luck though. do you all do this in every city??

MAG pays based on "historical block"

"Block or better" means this:

Block: the scheduled time to get from point A-B.
Historical Block: the 6-month average to get from A-B
...or better: the actual time it takes to release the brake at A and set it at B, if it takes longer than the Block.

MAG does not have ACARS so yes, most pilots I have met fudge the out/in like crazy. Despite this, there are often times that you get stuck in a ground stop or a holding patten that takes you WAAAAAY beyond the block. You WILL NOT get paid for this time at MAG. I don't think I am being clear: you will FLY FOR FREE at some point during your run at MAG due to some enroute delay that takes you beyond the block. YOU WILL FLY FOR FREE. Are we clear on that point? Is this message getting through to anyone?

Now, I can't count the times I have been in JFK sitting in line (#80 for takeoff or something ridiculous). My round trip pay has run out on several occasions before LEAVING to go to the out station. THEN, to add insult to injury, legs at the end of my trip start to fall off because of 30/7 issues WITHOUT PAY PROTECTION.

Yea, come to MAG. We're hiring, it's a hoot!
:rolleyes:

Got an email from our Negociations committee today. Apparently the company and the union have reached an agreement. According to the email, details will be ironed out this weekend, then it will be presented next week to our entire MEC, then to us.

We'll see what happens.

Good luck guys if that's indeed true!

A quick question on bases
 

A quick question on the chances of getting Charlotte or Grand Junction for a FO? I hear that there is a possibility of CVG for Sept . I would ultimately like to be out west - is that a tough one for bases other than Phoenix?

The Dash bases are DEN, PHX, and GJT. GJT is the most senior for CA's. For Dash FO's, GJT is most senior, DEN and PHX are about even. If you are in a hurry to be out west, the Dash is the way to go. There has been a lot of Dash hiring lately, so that could mean the next few classes will go mainly to the jets.

On the jet side, I believe that CLT is more senior than JFK, ORD, and IAD. PHX is very senior for jet pilots. The Hawaii bases are mid-lower seniority, probably due to the cost of living. If you wind up assigned jets, your choices will probably be suck up the COL in the islands or wait for your seniority to hold PHX.

Hope this helps.

I'll be honest with you, I had considered going to the mesa program before I made my schooling decision. I decided to get my degree at a regular university, then goto a dedicated flight school. I was lucky and had friends in the industry who warned me about the nature of the MGT at MAG. I didn't know what it meant, but I followed their advice, after instructing, I got a job a what I guess most people would say is a respectable regional, and after working here, and talking to other active Mesa pilots, there IS a HUGE difference. MAG is a horrible place to work. I know flying a shiny jet has it's lure, but their contract and QOL is really bad. You won't really know how bad it is until you experience it. If you don't have a family, don't care about being home, like being treated like crap, and can live off of scraps for money, then.....you can choose that route. But if any of those things are important, Mesa is NOT the right place. Mesa as a company, has done everything they can to ruin the regionals. I would never hope for someone to lose their job, but the company Mesa, needs to go. You are better off waiting for a regional and build your time as a flight instructor, besides...you are making more money now like that I am guessing than you will at mesa, and you are home....everynight...mesa guys on reserve....8-9 days off a month.
I am far from a sky god....I worked for all my hours...and paid up the butt. But anyone with less than 500TT really shouldn't be in a jet anyway....