So assuming things makes you look dumb. I am not applying to blowjet and have no intention of it. I am also extremely educated as I have several friends with many years of experience. (most at majors) All of them have told me to do what is best for me and I 100% agree. I am sick of people on this board being so damn petty when some of us really want to get information or "get educated" as you so eloquently stated. If you don't like the company then stay outof the thread unless you have some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to lend.

to add to this I realize it seemed like I was attacking you whiz and I am not. It was a general statement to everyone who bashes a company on a thread like this

Well said Stryker, btw which pool are you in?

noone will make 170K a year if people keep settling for the bottom feeders. Management loves those who settle for less and willing to do this job for less and less. We all know who to thank for our complaints today.

Was in asa's and Tsa's. Now just kinda in limbo

Hey its all good Stryker. I guess some of us just get a little frustrated with some of those who are still instructing when, unless we throw anything short of a parade for them wanting to do ANYTHING to get a job in a shiny jet, they short circuit and get very defensive. Its just classic examples of you telling them what they don't want to hear, them knowing deep down that its all relatively true, but to entertain the thought that making the decision to go to a place like Mesa is anything short of brilliant is too much to handle. They only want to hear the folks that say "sure, go for it" and block out the folks that have been there and say "DON'T" because they've already made up their minds and any amount of reasoning or rational thought will not be entertained.

By its very nature constructive criticism is not always positive. It's human nature to weight information more heavily if it supports your decision and more easily discount information that does not. Something that you should really try to be conscious of and try to guard against. As far as going to Mesa, you're still gonna have 8 days off a month and you're still only going to be making about $1200/mo (what kind of crummy instructing gig is that!?). But hey, at least its a jet, right? I'll leave you with this thought: almost without exception, everyone from Mesa I've ever talked to or heard talk about Mesa regrets going there or wishes they were somewhere else. Take that for whatever you think its worth.

Oh, and from my experience, most guys at the majors are pretty out of touch with what is going on at the regionals. And since you gotta do the regional thing first, I would think that you'd be more interested in what guys that are there now have to say.

I have been at MESA for 12 years and I have been lucky also.I realize everyone has not, but some of that is of your own making. What you fail to understand is that those "top tier" regionals have not always been top tier. They became top tier after several contracts that were won by the the previous (and current)pilots efforts to make them such. We at MESA are on our 2nd contract and are in negotiations for our 3rd. This 3rd contract is where we need to clean things up. I find (through talking to other regional pilots) that they don't know the history of their carrier and think that the management gave these things willingly,I can assure you they did not. ASA spent almost 5 years getting their current contract and it is better than ours, but not much better than they could have had 5 years ago. It is easy to walk into a good contract and then put others down.It is much more difficult to stay and make one better. We would appreciate others support (as we have supported theirs) and understanding that their contracts have developed to the point they are because of hard work,support of others and time. Remember, no airline pilots 1st or 2nd contracts have ever been GREAT. It takes time.

Come on FBH, everyone has had at least one chubby chaser incident. If not, you don't drink enough! :D[/QUOTE]

Well,..........:o
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Thats great. I just wasn't willing to continue waiting for years and years at Mesa under the old crapbag contract while JO and his crooked braintrust do everything in their power to drag the implementation of a new and better contract into place. I also saw an attrition rate of close to 100 pilots a month as a bad sign, large lawsuits yet to be determined as a bad sign and general apathy and malaise from many of the remaining pilot group not very appealing. SO, based on those factors (and others) I felt it would not be in my best interest to stay. If you stay and can make a difference, kudos. You've moved a mountain.