I called a rep a few days ago, and I asked about the LOA, I was told by my rep that the only thing that has to be done is sign a new LOA..., was even told that it was a very easy process and could be accomplished within a matter of days, if need be. I left the call under the impression that the company is willing to sign off on this as wel, just waiting at this point. I will call again tomorrow to clarify what I was told.
If it is only a matter of the 2 sides sitting down and sigining a piece af paper that will save hundereds of jobs, things need to be rolling sooner than later!

 

Okay, seriously though, why do we need to call ALPA?
Do they not know that the LOA has expired? If so, I don't want them there, I want someone who knows what is going on.
Do they not know/care that we want don't want to be furloughed? If so, I don't want them there, I want someone who cares what is going on.
Do they just want to hear from us, want us to call and say hi, want recognition? If so, I don't want them there, I want someone that is there to get the job done, not to gloat on themself.

 

All i'm saying, is that i was feeling the same way, but hearing directly from the union what is going on, and what they're doing..is MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE than the rumors and inaccuracies in the forums!

It changed my mind, and made me feel a little bit better about what's going on. Furlough will happen, and ALPA/Comair will work out something with part time/voluntary stuff since BOTH sides want it (why do you think Comair hasn't just gone ahead and furloughed the 300 yet?).

I think this is the reason the furlough are taking forever to materialize.

 

If thats the case, and I sure hope that is the truth, then why hasn't the union stated this? Why can't they come out with one of their wonderful emails saying "guys, just hang on, we're workin on it." Why must we hear it on some super secret secure line encrypted telephone call?

 

Please look back a few pages on either the Comair Updates thread or the MEC in the Dark thread. It's been addressed on this forum.

 

They have said they're taking care of it. But everyone freaked out when they said they're going to figure out other contract issues first. For good reason, that mgmt has agreed to these things but hasn't put it in writing/is abiding by it.

I understand the unions position in fixing things in, honestly, a realistic order. If the union went ahead and dealt with the furloughs right now, you KNOW mgmt would ask for these recent contract updates / language changes to be thrown out "quid pro quo" style. Furloughs are GOING to happen no matter what, but as i said earlier. It seems clear to me that mgmt is stalling as much as they can because mgmt WANTS part time stuff. It'll happen, but like everything else regarding unions/negotiations it takes time.

PS

Union sent out a huge news letter, a lot of it is repeats from old ones..But there are several messages from the union telling everyone to relax. Remember, management WASN'T supposed to say ANYTHING about what's going on, but they did anyways. And looking at the furlough list, and the first words being "in order to keep open communication regarding the status of our crews" it seems that management is trying AND SUCCEEDING in driving a wedge between the pilot group and ALPA. This is especially true of the junior guys (myself included) who are the future of Comair (since we'll be here 15 years before upgrade).

Stay on the correct side of this battle, we need solidarity now more than ever.

 

Nice post Andy.

 

The answer to everything, just sue. Your just going to waste a ton of money and make some lawyer rich.

All it requires is them to meet. They do not have to offer anything. So why are you going to sue, and who are you going to sue?

 

I say management and the pilots settle this issue with a HELL IN THE CELL MATCH. No disqaulification, no count outs, falls count anywhere. Last one standing wins and determines who gets to furlough whom. I already have a suggestion you guys can use......YouTube - Batista - Theme Song

 

Or this guy....YouTube - edge's theme song WWE or this guy, he's really .....cool.YouTube - THE ROCK THEME 1 more, has I'm sure you want to bury management. YouTube - The Undertaker Theme Song

Well I picked the four for the pilots, I wonder, what would management pick? LOL!!