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Old 08-03-2008 | 08:23 AM
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The wages do stink but there is 1 thing that makes it better and that is the planes are on the mainline ticket which adds longevity and potential for increased wages. If all planes were on mainline then everyone would start their longevity sooner which equals more pay and security for everyone.
I couldn't agree more; at least they stopped the bleeding at 86 seats.

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I doubt that TD, sure we would all like to fly larger a/c and get paid more but every US Airways pilot (West that is; not those grumpy East guys who all take after Skyhigh) I've come across is happy to have the E's under roof because of the blood they've lost due to their scope. It's always better to have the choice to leave than be forced to leave. Remember that those flying the E's are more than likely the most JR US Airways pilots (mainly the FO's, after all those East guys are......well you just can't call them JR.....LOL), there for no E-jets.............no job.

BTW, I jump US a lot.
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Old 08-03-2008 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
The wages do stink but there is 1 thing that makes it better and that is the planes are on the mainline ticket which adds longevity and potential for increased wages. If all planes were on mainline then everyone would start their longevity sooner which equals more pay and security for everyone.

Correct!! You win the prize!!

Virtually all airplanes flown under an airline's colors should be on a mainline seniority list IMHO.

Many captains on the EMB-190 could hold other better seats. But it may not fit their lifestyle. Or they could hold right seat 757 or something like that. The fact that it's on the mainline seniority list is a very big deal and I hope that that airplane is NEVER given up. I doubt it will be as virtually everyone sees that that genie is virtually impossible to put back in the bottle.
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Old 08-03-2008 | 09:26 AM
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So now that the damage has been done, with regionals flying mainline aircraft, how do we fix this? The regionals are slowly also becoming career airlines. Which is a bad thing. Senior guys just stick around until they retire. (and I really can't blame them) But they are really against having their mainline counterparts take the RJ flying, anything bigger than 50 seats. I think that would be awesome. I really want to get the hell out of my regional sooner than later and have a real career, but it looks like I'm going to be stuck for a while. Upgrade is years away for me.
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Old 08-03-2008 | 09:41 AM
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man this thing looks under-powered, bigtime...
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Old 08-03-2008 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
So now that the damage has been done, with regionals flying mainline aircraft, how do we fix this? The regionals are slowly also becoming career airlines. Which is a bad thing. Senior guys just stick around until they retire. (and I really can't blame them) But they are really against having their mainline counterparts take the RJ flying, anything bigger than 50 seats. I think that would be awesome. I really want to get the hell out of my regional sooner than later and have a real career, but it looks like I'm going to be stuck for a while. Upgrade is years away for me.
It was the pilots at the majors who gave away the smaller jets. IIRC, they could have had them, but wanted nothing to do with them.
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Old 08-03-2008 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghDude
man this thing looks under-powered, bigtime...
Tell me about it! I have no idea how its going to make it up to 410 with those little pea-shooters! I do, however, think it would be an awesome -9 replacement for NWA/DAL or whoever still flies the -9 worldwide.
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Old 08-03-2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
It was the pilots at the majors who gave away the smaller jets. IIRC, they could have had them, but wanted nothing to do with them.
Yeah I know, but how do we fix the damage that has already been done? We can whine and gripe about how the good ole days were and how things should have been done, but that doesn't do anything. How do we fix it?
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Old 08-03-2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Yeah I know, but how do we fix the damage that has already been done? We can whine and gripe about how the good ole days were and how things should have been done, but that doesn't do anything. How do we fix it?
It is important to learn from our past mistakes. There is nothing wrong with dissecting the past as a guide on how to fix it.
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Old 08-03-2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
So now that the damage has been done, with regionals flying mainline aircraft, how do we fix this? The regionals are slowly also becoming career airlines. Which is a bad thing. Senior guys just stick around until they retire. (and I really can't blame them) But they are really against having their mainline counterparts take the RJ flying, anything bigger than 50 seats. I think that would be awesome. I really want to get the hell out of my regional sooner than later and have a real career, but it looks like I'm going to be stuck for a while. Upgrade is years away for me.
What is wrong with being a lifer at a regional? What makes a mainline career more "real" than one at a regional?

sounds a little cocky to me...
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Old 08-03-2008 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi
What is wrong with being a lifer at a regional? What makes a mainline career more "real" than one at a regional?

sounds a little cocky to me...
Having been a regional pilot up until 2001 I can tell you in no particular order:

Better planes that can get to altitude and go fast when they are there, long layovers in places other than DAY, CID, FNT, LEX, etc., much better schedules (reserve typically gives around 15-18 days off a month), no high speeds/continuous duty/naps (redeyes replace that but they are typically preceeded by a 24 hour layover), better retirement, jetways everywhere you go, overhead bin space for pax, 2nd year pay that exceeds 18 year pay at the regional you left, etc. Also, there is something cool about Boeing on the type rating section of your certificate. But this is just for starters. Others may chime in perhaps.
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