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Old 08-18-2008 | 02:11 PM
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That's cool. Just always remember the basic rule:

Family is number 1.
Airline is no higher than number 2.

Good luck!
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Old 08-18-2008 | 03:33 PM
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Six sick calls is generally the standard but five can sometimes put you on a 'watch list'. You don't need that at all. You know the weather is crap - you know your company policy - you know your current situation - COMMUTE EARLY and suck it up big boy....you're working for the airlines now....don't you want to fly? (Grin)

The sick call is for legitimate sick calls or those rare times when you get stuck on your commute. If you've had that many already - I hope they can be justified.
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Old 08-18-2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboarder29
Why would you even think about going to work and leaving your home less protected and your wife to sit through a hurricane by herself???. I would not think for more than two seconds about this before I called the CP and said I was going to miss the trip to protect my property and family during a hurricane. If they can't handle that then you have a lot more problems with your company than worrying about calling in sick 4 times in 15 months.

Board it up, send family to "mom's" and go to work. Return to replace a shingle or two and continue life as normal. CAT I Hurricanes are just wind and rain.

Don't be late - Penetate!!!

Seriously, if you're wife is a basket case...call the chief pilot and say that you will not be there due to personal emergency and hurricane evacuation. If the pilot doesn't support you - quit....or you can go in and do your job. The decision is yours.

Personally, I work for a company that would release me with no harm / no foul. However, some companies I realize are not like this.

I organize my world like this:
1. Family
2. Extended Family
3. Friends
4. Work

"I guess you got ask yourself a question punk. Do you feel lucky? Well do ya punk?"

(I had to slip at least one movie quote in there!)

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Old 08-18-2008 | 04:55 PM
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Personally, work would take a very far distant second to being home with the family during a major storm. Got to have priorities, the job should understand. Not that I expect they would, but a decent place would.

Second, 4 calls in 15 months? I wish my record was that stellar. Don't sweat it.

Third, I commute, and never pay attention to the weather. It's not part of the equation when it comes to my commute. Granted, it's also not part of our commuter clause either. Good luck.
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Old 08-18-2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bryris
Having lived in FL my whole life, I ain't scared. This thing is pretty whimpy anyway. Even if it came right over the house, it wouldn't do anything. My wife is totally cool with it. I think the easiest (considering money and the phone call, etc) is to just tough it out, leave tonight, hang in the Lou all day tomorrow, pick up the trip Wednesday, (its only a 2 day), and be back Thursday. By then the storm will have passed and all will be well with the world. My record will still be clean, I'll have a few extra Benjamins in the wallet, and best of all, this whole thing is over and I won't have to stress about it anymore.
Until you experience another one of these self-inflicted mini-crises and find yourself agonizing over what should be a relatively easy decision A couple of assumptions here, not knowing you personally: (1) you are an adult human being possessing at least some level of secondary education and (2) you are a professional aviator, a position that often requires you to absorb information and arrive at a decision, sometimes in short order. My suggestion to you would be to act like it.

I agree with the other responses on here about manning up and doing what you have to do. If you feel like you absolutely positively have to go to work, you should have left before this became an issue. If you're the kind of person who would rather ride out something like this with your family and ensure that they are taken care of then tell the company you're not coming to work for whatever reason you think best. A sick call is a sick call. If you chose to play that card then be prepared to play some hardball (depending on your company) but the reality is that proving a false sick call is tough for the company (unless you call in sick and then non-rev to Hawaii, but then you're just a moron) and rarely worth their effort. If thats the only option you are given (lack of a commuter clause) then use it. And if that bothers you, push your MEC to add a commuter clause to the next contract.

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Old 08-18-2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Until you experience another one of these self-inflicted mini-crises and find yourself agonizing over what should be a relatively easy decision A couple of assumptions here, not knowing you personally: (1) you are an adult human being possessing at least some level of secondary education and (2) you are a professional aviator, a position that often requires you to absorb information and arrive at a decision, sometimes in short order. My suggestion to you would be to act like it.
A little demeaning don't you think?

I gathered all the info (which included the responses on this post), called a SWA friend who spoke to dispatch about tomorrow's flights. I studied the forecasts, spoke with the Mrs. and derived a solution. I commuted up this evening, 36 hours early. What is unprofessional about that?

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Old 08-18-2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bryris
A little demeaning don't you think?
It's how some have to act to feel better.
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Old 08-18-2008 | 08:44 PM
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I called the CP about it at my airline last night. He told me if I can't get out who cares! I asked if it would count against me as an incident or an occurance because technically I can leave today and sit there on my last day and 1/2 off and he said no. He said that protecting my home is more important than work when it comes to things like this and this is a act of God kind of deal. I was very happy to see that my airline said that and I did not have to defend myself. I will still try and make it in on Weds. if there is a flight that goes. I have Sun-Tues off and I don't have to duty in till 1800 weds. My buddy who works for another airline called and they said the same to him. So it doesn't hurt to ask the CP in my opinion.

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Old 08-19-2008 | 06:00 AM
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I'm amazed at those who think 4 sick events in 15 is excessive. Why are people paraniod about calling in sick? They cannot fire you for calling in sick.

I guess my 2 sick calls in a 30 day period were excessive and I shoulda been fired huh? right.......
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Old 08-19-2008 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by daniel0265
I called the CP about it at my airline last night. He told me if I can't get out who cares! I asked if it would count against me as an incident or an occurance because technically I can leave today and sit there on my last day and 1/2 off and he said no. He said that protecting my home is more important than work when it comes to things like this and this is a act of God kind of deal. I was very happy to see that my airline said that and I did not have to defent myself. I will still try and make it in on Weds. if there is a flight that goes. I have Sun-Tues off and I don't have to duty in till 1800 weds. My buddy who works for another airline called and they said the same to him. So it doesn't hurt to ask the CP in my opinion.
See you likely work for a good airline. Not ghetto air. I am already here, so what is done is done. However, after working for Uncle H for 15 months, I've sort of gotten the beat of the place. I think that in the end they would let me do it, but would throw the book at me first. If this thing was stronger, I'd stay. But they are talking 30 knot windand rain. Really not a big deal.
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