TSA breaks 9 Eagle aircraft at ORD
08-22-2008, 06:14 AM
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I person who broke the airplanes really does need to be arrested and charged with in reckless endangerment of lives and conspiring to commit an act of terrorism. Throw the person in Guantanamo for 7 years and abuse them before thinking about his civil liberties.
08-22-2008, 06:42 AM
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Maybe I missed it, but has anyone heard if Eagle plans to retaliate with a lawsuit towards the TSA? Parts, labor, canceled flights and other logistics associated could make this a costly pill to swallow. Costly or financial speed bump, either way Eagle shouldn't be held responsible to pick up the check.
08-22-2008, 11:32 AM
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"Our inspector was following routine procedure for securing the aircraft that were on the tarmac," Montenegro told ABCNews.com.
"The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break into a parked aircraft", according to Montenegro.
I'd expect better from an official spokesperson. Monty should have edited one word out of his statement, he could proudly declare "mission accomplished":
"The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break a parked aircraft."
"The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break into a parked aircraft", according to Montenegro.
I'd expect better from an official spokesperson. Monty should have edited one word out of his statement, he could proudly declare "mission accomplished":
"The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break a parked aircraft."
08-23-2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DamonMeyer
"Our inspector was following routine procedure for securing the aircraft that were on the tarmac," Montenegro told ABCNews.com.
"The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break into a parked aircraft", according to Montenegro.
"The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break into a parked aircraft", according to Montenegro.
I'm suprised the TSA didn't try taking the head off of the towbar and using that as a blunt object to smash his way into the airplanes.
08-23-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
Makes one wonder what entails "Extensive training" Maybe they should let us all know how they define Extensive? 
I'm sure those 20 year old kids are suited to these responsibilities
I'm sure those 20 year old kids are suited to these responsibilities
08-23-2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HoboPilot
From the article on abc.com:
Pilots were furious at the TSA misstep.
"The brilliant employees used an instrument located just below the cockpit window that is critical to the operation of the onboard computers," one pilot wrote on an American Eagle internet forum. "They decided this instrument, the TAT probe, would be adequate to use as a ladder," the pilot wrote.
Another pilot wrote the TSA agents, "are now doing things to our aircraft that may put our lives, and the lives of our passengers at risk."
I was kind of surprised to see what was being said on another forum was quoted in the article. I guess now more than ever is a good time to keep the discussion as professional and informative, while still having a good time poking fun at TSA
, keeping in mind just who is reading these forums. As long as the media is going to be quoting some of the posts on forums like this, we might as well provide them with some quality posts to help improve the media's current reputation for their coverage of any news related to the airlines
Pilots were furious at the TSA misstep.
"The brilliant employees used an instrument located just below the cockpit window that is critical to the operation of the onboard computers," one pilot wrote on an American Eagle internet forum. "They decided this instrument, the TAT probe, would be adequate to use as a ladder," the pilot wrote.
Another pilot wrote the TSA agents, "are now doing things to our aircraft that may put our lives, and the lives of our passengers at risk."
I was kind of surprised to see what was being said on another forum was quoted in the article. I guess now more than ever is a good time to keep the discussion as professional and informative, while still having a good time poking fun at TSA
, keeping in mind just who is reading these forums. As long as the media is going to be quoting some of the posts on forums like this, we might as well provide them with some quality posts to help improve the media's current reputation for their coverage of any news related to the airlines
08-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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ALPA, TSA Address Security Inspection Deficiencies
Recent activities by TSA Aviation Direct Access Screening Program (ADASP) personnel culminated in an event at Chicago’s O’Hare International that demonstrated that some TSA personnel are unfamiliar with the proper ways to access parked aircraft. ALPA and TSA are working together to ensure that everyone involved in these activities has an appropriate understanding of relevant procedures.
On August 19, a TSA inspector assigned to the ADASP moved around several aircraft using external parts as handholds. The inspector was unaware of the potential damage he could have inflicted to the equipment or of the threat to safety.
ADASP was created for Transportation Security Officers to provide security screening for the presence of explosives, incendiaries, weapons, and other prohibited items or improper airport identification media. The security screening occurs at direct access points to include airport secured areas, sterile areas, and or aircraft operating areas except for TSA screening checkpoints.
Following report of the problem at ORD, TSA leadership immediately issued a message to reemphasize the importance of complying with the guidance provided in the ADASP Procedure Manual.
ALPA’s National Security Committee has been in contact with TSA officials to ensure that similar incidents are not repeated in the future. “Something like this can affect safety,” said ALPA president, Capt. John Prater. “We want to make it clear to TSA that, while we applaud their efforts to ensure the security of our aircraft, no action on their part can undermine safety.”
“We are reviewing this incident to discover whether the problem is procedural within TSA, or only involved one inspector,” said Capt. Bob Hesselbein, ALPA National Security Committee Chairman.
Recent activities by TSA Aviation Direct Access Screening Program (ADASP) personnel culminated in an event at Chicago’s O’Hare International that demonstrated that some TSA personnel are unfamiliar with the proper ways to access parked aircraft. ALPA and TSA are working together to ensure that everyone involved in these activities has an appropriate understanding of relevant procedures.
On August 19, a TSA inspector assigned to the ADASP moved around several aircraft using external parts as handholds. The inspector was unaware of the potential damage he could have inflicted to the equipment or of the threat to safety.
ADASP was created for Transportation Security Officers to provide security screening for the presence of explosives, incendiaries, weapons, and other prohibited items or improper airport identification media. The security screening occurs at direct access points to include airport secured areas, sterile areas, and or aircraft operating areas except for TSA screening checkpoints.
Following report of the problem at ORD, TSA leadership immediately issued a message to reemphasize the importance of complying with the guidance provided in the ADASP Procedure Manual.
ALPA’s National Security Committee has been in contact with TSA officials to ensure that similar incidents are not repeated in the future. “Something like this can affect safety,” said ALPA president, Capt. John Prater. “We want to make it clear to TSA that, while we applaud their efforts to ensure the security of our aircraft, no action on their part can undermine safety.”
“We are reviewing this incident to discover whether the problem is procedural within TSA, or only involved one inspector,” said Capt. Bob Hesselbein, ALPA National Security Committee Chairman.
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