TSA breaks 9 Eagle aircraft at ORD
08-20-2008 | 05:10 PM
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I would love to hear about a pilot catching one of these guys climbing on their airplane, immediatly scream "terrorist!!!" and let the beat down commence and ask questions later.
Then defend thier actions by saying that terrorists could easily buy a TSA uniform and pretend to do an inspection to gain access to an airplane to use in a hostile matter.
After all, they use that exscuse when they put us through so much scrutiny.
Then defend thier actions by saying that terrorists could easily buy a TSA uniform and pretend to do an inspection to gain access to an airplane to use in a hostile matter.
After all, they use that exscuse when they put us through so much scrutiny.
08-20-2008 | 05:12 PM
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What was the status of these aircraft when Inspector Destruction came on the scene? Were they in daily active service, RON, spare, etc?
The reason I ask is aircraft are not required to be secure at all times. If he was climbing on the TAT probe, then the cabin door was closed (I'd assume). If these aircraft were in active service and door closed, then this should not be an issue. If they were OTS or RON, then this is not an issue. An aircraft does not have to be observed 24 hours a day. That is one of the many reasons that we do security checks on first flight and after an aircraft has been left unattended.
The reason I ask is aircraft are not required to be secure at all times. If he was climbing on the TAT probe, then the cabin door was closed (I'd assume). If these aircraft were in active service and door closed, then this should not be an issue. If they were OTS or RON, then this is not an issue. An aircraft does not have to be observed 24 hours a day. That is one of the many reasons that we do security checks on first flight and after an aircraft has been left unattended.
08-20-2008 | 05:12 PM
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08-20-2008 | 05:14 PM
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A notorious TSA agent was locked in the cargo bin of an RJ at CVG for several hours after a ramp agent witnessed him get into the bin. The agent waited for him to get in completely, closed the door, and went back to his normal job duties.
08-20-2008 | 05:58 PM
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What was the status of these aircraft when Inspector Destruction came on the scene? Were they in daily active service, RON, spare, etc?
The reason I ask is aircraft are not required to be secure at all times. If he was climbing on the TAT probe, then the cabin door was closed (I'd assume). If these aircraft were in active service and door closed, then this should not be an issue. If they were OTS or RON, then this is not an issue. An aircraft does not have to be observed 24 hours a day. That is one of the many reasons that we do security checks on first flight and after an aircraft has been left unattended.
The reason I ask is aircraft are not required to be secure at all times. If he was climbing on the TAT probe, then the cabin door was closed (I'd assume). If these aircraft were in active service and door closed, then this should not be an issue. If they were OTS or RON, then this is not an issue. An aircraft does not have to be observed 24 hours a day. That is one of the many reasons that we do security checks on first flight and after an aircraft has been left unattended.
In service aircraft. Parked overnight. He simulated a badguy not having access through the jetbridge door by climbing up the TAT probes into the jetbridge, then opening the main door. They were promptly taken out of service by MX when they did their morning inspections prior to first flight.
40 flights delayed. At least one Captain made a spectacular PA letting all the Pax know the real reason the planes were all delayed.
08-20-2008 | 06:13 PM
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Any Kidding aside RE: previous post.
I'm not a pilot, however I'm a huge aviation/airline buff and a long time pAX, having flown my share of miles.
As a PAX, this is something that could push a potential customer over the edge, maybe it already has.
In the airline business, a business under tremendous stress and with razor thin margins- how can we (collectively as customer and provider) accept this?
How many of the booked passengers have already said, "next time, I'll drive"?
I've had little respect for the TSA previously, now even less.
9/10 they worked for Wackenhut making maybe a little above minimum wage. Today they are federal employees doiing....well... go back to the first post....
I'm not a pilot, however I'm a huge aviation/airline buff and a long time pAX, having flown my share of miles.
As a PAX, this is something that could push a potential customer over the edge, maybe it already has.
In the airline business, a business under tremendous stress and with razor thin margins- how can we (collectively as customer and provider) accept this?
How many of the booked passengers have already said, "next time, I'll drive"?
I've had little respect for the TSA previously, now even less.
9/10 they worked for Wackenhut making maybe a little above minimum wage. Today they are federal employees doiing....well... go back to the first post....
08-20-2008 | 06:23 PM
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Im going to quit my job and work for TSA. I break a plane now, I have to talk to the chief pilot, possibly go through retraining, maybe even get fired. I work for TSA and break a plane, my company sticks up for me tells me I did a good thing, then fines the aircraft owner. Cant get much better than that! Did I mention the pay is better?
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