TSA breaks 9 Eagle aircraft at ORD

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08-20-2008 | 06:27 PM

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DamonMeyer

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Originally Posted by cessna157

A notorious TSA agent was locked in the cargo bin of an RJ at CVG for several hours after a ramp agent witnessed him get into the bin. The agent waited for him to get in completely, closed the door, and went back to his normal job duties.

Is this true? Because if it is...that technique needs to get shared far and wide, and universally applied. Kudos to that agent for neutralizing an imminent hazard to the safety of the aircraft.

08-20-2008 | 08:25 PM

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From: Shotty!!

If the TSA performs these types of "try and get in the airplane by any means practical" investigations on a regular basis at numerous airports around the country, one would think the administration has an obligation to inform the respective airline's operations manager, or at least the flight crew for the aircraft, for that base/airplane that the inspection has taken place before they even board any passengers. Think if something less noticeable were to be broken by an overzealous TSA agent?

Hopefully this incident will open the public's eyes to one of an apparently many organizational and administrative flaws the TSA currently has and will help to improve what could and needs to be a very useful and well run agency if run by the right people.

08-20-2008 | 08:49 PM

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RU4692

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Originally Posted by DamonMeyer

Is this true? Because if it is...that technique needs to get shared far and wide, and universally applied. Kudos to that agent for neutralizing an imminent hazard to the safety of the aircraft.

Not exactly... One of our rampers saw a "suspicious" individual roaming around the SIDA area, get into the cargo bin of a CRJ-200. The ramper closed the cargo bin latch on him and called the airport police. It was a HUGE fiasco where Police opened the bin at gunpoint shutting down the ramp for over an hour.

Needless to say that TSA agent didnt crawl into anymore luggage bins after that.

08-20-2008 | 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFlood

I would love to hear about a pilot catching one of these guys climbing on their airplane, immediatly scream "terrorist!!!"

Take this one step farther for all those FFDOs out there. You see a suspicious person tampering with your airplane, order him/her to the ground at gun point.

08-20-2008 | 09:35 PM

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What I don't understand is how an individual decided to take it upon himself to go out there and mess with aircraft he knew nothing about. Those are there for a reason and it's not to run up the cost of the airplane. What if they hadn't been noticed and the crew was operating in ORD in the winter? TSA needs some fences put up.

08-20-2008 | 09:52 PM

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Slice

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Originally Posted by Flyboydan

Take this one step farther for all those FFDOs out there. You see a suspicious person tampering with your airplane, order him/her to the ground at gun point.

Why not join us? I can't comment on SOP.

08-20-2008 | 10:02 PM

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Take this one step farther for all those FFDOs out there. You see a suspicious person tampering with your airplane, order him/her to the ground at gun point.

It is publicly known that an FFDO is deputized to protect the flight deck and the flight deck only. So its doubtful that you would see an FFDO holding a TSA agent at gun point, unless they were inside the cockpit.

08-20-2008 | 10:09 PM

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So wait 30 more seconds

Disclaimer: This was a joke.

08-20-2008 | 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeB525

Stupid question since I'm instrument rated and should probably know this: What is TOTAL air temperature? Total of what?

A little simpler than the other explanation. When air runs into something, or something runs into air (like and airplane), the air gets compressed. When it gets compressed it gets heated. The additional heating is called the ram rise.

Total Air temperature (TAT) is the sum of the static air temperature (SAT) outside and the heat generated from the compression, the ram rise.

Oh yeah, the TSA are a bunch of idiots.

Last edited by dojetdriver; 08-20-2008 at 10:39 PM.

08-21-2008 | 05:12 AM

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I first read about this in AvWeb's AvFlash Newsletter:
AVwebFlash Complete Issue

While I'm not a commercial pilot (yet), I see continued frustration from everyone who is doing their job (except TSA agents that is), Flight Crews, Ramp Agents, Ops, Fuelers, etc.

This just goes on my list of major areas where the TSA fails.