TSA breaks 9 Eagle aircraft at ORD
 

Hey,

I've just been hearing from the Eagle board that TSA(security) not the airline, has broken into 9 of our aircraft in ORD. I'm assuming as a security test. Doing an RGO(look up broken aircraft) this morning confirms 9 aircraft all had damaged TAT probes. Apparently from somebody using them climb on the aircraft. I know sounds completly BS, I thought it was too but, from what I have gathered its true. There were kickoff flight cx'd this morning too. So just a friendly word of advice for the ORD guys and gals be sure to pay extra attention when check out your A/C in the morning. You never know you just might find a TSA agent climbing all over it in the morning:rolleyes: Oh, if this does turn out to be false I'll let you know. Its hard to believe but, thought I'd out it there in case anybody came across this.

lol, wow. that would be hilarious if it was true. i can just see them now trying to break into a plane. "here twist this probe, its probably the lock to the door"! hahaha

on a side note however, i have always said if i have to evacuate the plane with the rope i am taking every probe with me on my way down!

I cant find anything on this! you gotta link for everyone?

a link to what? he said he heard it, not read it.

I do hope it'll be intentional; otherwise I love to be a fly on the wall when you try to explain that to the doctor while he's giving you a rectal exam. :eek:

Doctor: So you knew they were there but you still………………………………
Airsupport: Aaaaaah.........ya doc........I had to keep my promise to all my pals on APC.
Doctor: Next time use lube.
Airsupport: Ya, I usually carry a big tube but I used it all during our last negotiation period and couldn't make it to Walgreens before my trip.
Doctor: You pilots...............................OK, spread them.
Airsupport: @#$#!@$$%%#@!@#$$!!!!!!

Love it! :D :D

I'll call this thread BS. Since that matter would be criminal; breaking and entering, trespassing and destruction of property, was any law enforcement involved?

Of course it would be criminal to break something, but to enter your aircraft??? Our crews have been warned about TSA/FAA entering and hiding things on a/c to see if people are properly doing security sweeps.
Maybe it's just propoganda, but I've heard crews talk about finding things and it was placed there by TSA.

Thanks to the gub'mt, the TSA is running around without a leash...

Only Transport Canada can place items on aircraft. The TSA here is strictly forbidden to do any such thing. If it does happen, get names and employee numbers!

TSA is not permitted to open any aircraft doors, nationwide. They are permitted to enter an aircraft that was left open, but they are not to operate any levers, handles, etc to gain access to an aircraft.

lol, oh yeah it will be intentional. i may even grab a wiper blade on my way out! :)

It is True. Our computer shows 9 a/c down thanxs to the TSA.

When was the last time TSA adhered strictly to the rules? Some believe they are above the law and can do whatever they want in the name of security.

Confirmed by the higher-ups this afternoon. Expect a statement (blast) from AMR within a couple of days. We had to wait longer than normal for a gate this morning at about 7 because "9 aircraft went A3 and I don't know why" (operations).

RUMOR has it that Eagle was specifically targeted because some TSA folks thought our airplanes weren't being secured overnight and they decided to prove it. I find this ironic since as far as I know, we are one of the very few airlines that actually have keys to lock cockpits up with at night.

More info to follow as it becomes available.

that is hilarious i hope AMR eats the tsa for lunch

Youre absolutely correct. I confronted this TSA agent that walked through security with her water bottle and told her that she needs to discard it because it's more than 3oz of liquid. All six TSA agents didn't say **it, just evil looks. Im pretty sure I have a red target on my back....It's time to fight back!!!!:mad:

Random question, whats the deal with the security guards all over dtw with the tactical cargo pants tucked into their army boots?

See what happens! They have power and need to be respected. They need police badges and new cop style uniforms....or wait they are already getting them.....its about to get worse.

Next week:

The TSA agency has decided to switch to black uniforms after several instances involving aircraft while wearing the new blue uniforms. The black unifroms are being distributed to give TSA a "new look" that demands authority unlike the now tainted blue and previous white uniforms. The TSA has planned multiple new uniforms for a continued "fresh face" after each humiliating event. After black comes red, brown, green, peach, copper, cream, sky blue, violet, yellow, gray, rose, tomato, banana, cherry, grape, watermelon then back to white again. The colors will the be rotated each time there's an occurance.

On a more serious note this should be a quick fix no? Also where do you draw the line? I mean who decides that breaking eight planes wasn't enough but nine would do?

If anyone would be willing to talk about this incident, we'd sure appreciate hearing from you. Requests for confidentiality will be honored.


Jim Campbell, Editor-In-Chief, Aero-News Network, Inc.
800-356-7767, [email protected]

Always wondered this myself. They act like they're on speed or something.

In other news...

http://chris-karath.com/tp/images/16.jpg

I would LOVE for this to hit the media.

is that a doo rag or a turban (sp) on the TSA agent of course

I'd love to know the details on how these TSA Agents broke all 9 airplanes. LOL! What morons...............I mean America's finest! :(

Well you see...

Pitot-static probes are sharp metal objects... so they had to go. As did any antennas and static dischargers... Next was the fuel. Drained to 3oz. Now you're safe for flight! A job well-done TSA!

http://www.theipinionsjournal.com/up...tsa-744550.jpg

What type of news do you guys publish? I'm gonna go dig through your website.

Unbelievable...and not because it's a nun...

Looks a lot like DTW......I would expect nothing less. I was in uniform and was told I could not bring an electric shaver through because it had blades. I burst out laughing.....so did the supervisor when called on.

The guys on the Eagle board have been supposedly have been trying to get the media informed over this I'll post your email over there.

So on another note, if i'd have to guess why these guys broke pitot tubes. I'm guessing they couldn't access the aircraft through jetbridge so they decided to try from the ramp using the pitot tubes as something to try to climb up on the plane.

ahh, finally made the news. hahe.

ABC News: TSA Snafu Damages Nine Planes at O'Hare Field

You beat me to it. I was just getting ready to copy the link. Does anyone know WHY they were trying to climb up on the plane?

this was my favorite part:

The TSA agent, as part of spot inspection of aircraft security, climbed onto the parked aircraft using control sensors mounted on the fuselage as handholds, according to a TSA official in Chicago, Elio Montenegro.

"Our inspector was following routine procedure for securing the aircraft that were on the tarmac," Montenegro told ABCNews.com.

The TSA agent was attempting to determine if someone could break into a parked aircraft, according to Montenegro.


Just have to love the TSA, what's next for agents trying to find ways to sneak into aircraft...maybe one will try to enter via the lav

It's too bad the pitot heat wasn't on.:mad: Routine procedure? Is he serious? Idiots!

To add to that, keep in mind that Eagle ERJs have plug-doors without any airstairs so it would be a tough climb for most of the TSA's finest to get up the 5ish feet to the door.

The public needs to know that not only is the TSA not keeping them safe, they are now actually degrading the safety of the aircraft they are charged with keeping secure.

These morons broke 9 airplanes. After braking one they continue on showing off their GED education status by braking 8 more the same way. These people are officially doing more harm than good. I hope a plane load of people don't have to pay the price for their lack of knowledge.

Un freaking believable!!

How about the word BREAK. If you are going to insult someone for their education, it would be helpful to check your remarks for proper spelling.

I agree this is a moronic idea, but with that statement, you are trying to light a fire with wet matches son.

LOL

That's very true. The loss of a TAT probe is pretty much a non-event. The TSA though, in their never-ending quest to find new ways to make life hard on pilots and everyone else not wearing the prestigious TSA badge, will eventually cause serious damage to an aircraft. I too hope that it does not result in injury (or worse) of any pilot or passenger.

I can't believe the TSA agent was physically fit enough to climb anything.