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"Careful bros" is exactly 100% spot on! Feel free to vent your frustration, but please remember this is a public forum and to choose your words wisely!

Hey an ADG popping it's top on the ground is a real thing. It happened to my aircraft in JFK a couple years ago. Crew change+ running late+ night+ JFK+ poorly lit ramp = ADG deployment. Why I have no idea but it happened and it could have killed anyone who was close enough.

This is a public forum, but surely no one here would leak our top secret conversations back to mgmt. Nah that would never happen.

As for what to do when your frustrated beyond words, JUST DO YOUR JOB.

Without raining on anyone's conspiracy parade, I imagine the company guys are enjoying their victory in some sunny tropical paradise (Olive Branch? ha ha) instead of surfing APC on a Wednesday night. If I had their income and talent at milking shareholder value out of a labor group, I'd be in the Caymans on a 48' catamaran with a Brazilian model, a case of Bordeaux, and a fat cigar. I sure as heck wouldn't be surfing the internet on a laptop in Memphis listening to the pilots vent at my negotiating prowess.

In no way shape or form is that a 'frustration' issue, 9E flying safe is completely within their mandate as professional pilots.

just one brazillian model?

must be aiming too low

Back in the day when I was a lowly ramper for 9E there was a couple of incidents where rampers mistook the ADG door for the GPU recepticle (sp?) door.... bada bing... unlatching the wrong one and whammo! Getting hit with that mother cannot be fun or good for your head!

9E pilots.... I know the rampers in some Grand city up north sympathize with you.... be safe!

Not knowing specifics, but the only way an ADG can deploy on the ground sans a manual deployment is through a failure of the ground prox logic. Its been eight years or so but I recall that the ADG logic/ground prox was located on the DC Bat Bus. The backup was the parking brake. If the parking brake is turned off and the Bat is off then if the Ext. Power is turned off there is no more back up. In this scenario, if the Ground Prox loses power a microsecond before the ADG Auto Deploy logic then the ADG will sense it is losing AC Power and auto deploy the ADG.

What color do the life vests need to be? I saw a write-up the other day that said "crew life vests are the wrong color".. lol nice

So you're saying the "DANGER KEEP AWAY" placard is unnecessary?

I think that's Pinnacle's slogan, not a required placard.