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DANCRJ 09-09-2008 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 458663)
In 3 1/2 years flying 121.... here is how I see it..... The crew should be ready to push when the door closes....taxi normally, no need to use the SWA method just normally... be ready to go when its your turn number one at the end...fly the flight planned route, fly the planned cruise speed, call mx control when its appropriate. Then let the chips all where they may.....IF your block times have been adjusted to be very hard to over block then hell, just get there. My thing is fly by the contract no more ...no less.

Agree. But there's a lot of "pinnaclers" including a bunch here in this forum that will never tell the truth. These individuals would taxi as if the devil would be chasing them. 30 minute turns at outstations sometimes turn into 15. Why rush everything?, if you are late and your turn takes 30 min, well take the 30 mins. Why rush? (unless last leg off course). Start writting stuff up. Don't wait till you go back to the hub. No more favors. Don't ever leave without comissary or lav service. If they are slow, well.....they are slow not your problem, it's even a different department than yours (Ground Ops). If there's no gate agent, or they haven't finished unloading the valet checked bags at outstations, don't open the door. Sometimes they push you to open the door, so you block in, and then take forever to unload the valet checked bags and attach the jetbridge. That ain't right. Also, very important, don't push without numbers, period. Once you have numbers, you can push. Once you push complete after start and taxi checklist before taxi (I think that's about to change with the new checklist). Remember, if your FO is busy he/she won't be much of a help taxing, think about runway incursions, etc.....
Also, 300 lbs of contingency???? That's b.s. less than 500 shouldn't be acceptable. Get more fuel please....
Having said that, if it's the last leg or you are trying to catch you commute or something, well obviously go for it. This is the way the pilot group should be thinking now: ME, ME, ME, ME and only ME.

Poprocket 09-10-2008 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 458648)
Be one minute late on Block Out, no checklist until the doors closed and the brake has been dropped, taxi slow, don't accept immediates, no short cuts and fly 250/M.70 or slower. Also, hold off calling MX control on small issues so that it makes you late blocking out or wait until you’re blocked out so that you can eat into your on time arrival and get paid for it (this actually gives you a good excuse when and if the CP calls wondering why you where late).

I'm not advising it but it can be done and it works in your favor if you get Block or Better.


We don't have a CP, just a puppet on strings.

higney85 09-10-2008 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Poprocket (Post 459045)
We don't have a CP, just a puppet on strings.

We really don't have a CP. In the new FOM revision you can look up the admin and where a CP should be we have the "Director of Flying" that I am not even sure is a line flying pilot (on the ALPA sen list).

Simply the Best

ehaeckercfi 09-10-2008 10:38 AM

I nearly missed my commute home because the plane in front of us was taxiing slow. Taxi slow when able, but be mindful of those behind you.

skywatch 09-10-2008 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by DANCRJ (Post 458690)
Agree. But there's a lot of "pinnaclers" including a bunch here in this forum that will never tell the truth. These individuals would taxi as if the devil would be chasing them. 30 minute turns at outstations sometimes turn into 15. Why rush everything?, if you are late and your turn takes 30 min, well take the 30 mins. Why rush? (unless last leg off course). Start writting stuff up. Don't wait till you go back to the hub. No more favors. Don't ever leave without comissary or lav service. If they are slow, well.....they are slow not your problem, it's even a different department than yours (Ground Ops). If there's no gate agent, or they haven't finished unloading the valet checked bags at outstations, don't open the door. Sometimes they push you to open the door, so you block in, and then take forever to unload the valet checked bags and attach the jetbridge. That ain't right. Also, very important, don't push without numbers, period. Once you have numbers, you can push. Once you push complete after start and taxi checklist before taxi (I think that's about to change with the new checklist). Remember, if your FO is busy he/she won't be much of a help taxing, think about runway incursions, etc.....
Also, 300 lbs of contingency???? That's b.s. less than 500 shouldn't be acceptable. Get more fuel please....
Having said that, if it's the last leg or you are trying to catch you commute or something, well obviously go for it. This is the way the pilot group should be thinking now: ME, ME, ME, ME and only ME.

Oh, yes, because pilots are world renowned for thinking of everyone but themselves....:rolleyes::D

ohplease! 09-17-2008 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 459230)
I nearly missed my commute home because the plane in front of us was taxiing slow. Taxi slow when able, but be mindful of those behind you.

keep thinking like this and it may never get resolved. If you're going to really commit to getting it done, it can't matter if its your first leg of a 4 day or the last leg and you're running close on making your commute. And don't think that DL, AA, UA, ASA, etc. etc. will give a damn about who is behind them when its their turn at the table.

Along with the on time arrival/departure times going down, you'd be surprised what pressure calls from other airlines and ATC managers will do to get your management team moving.....What the hell do we care if you taxi slow? we all get paid by the minute.

oh yeah... that would require people thinking about something/somone other than themselves....what was I thinking about?....never happen at some airlines

ehaeckercfi 09-17-2008 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by ohplease! (Post 463094)
keep thinking like this and it may never get resolved. If you're going to really commit to getting it done, it can't matter if its your first leg of a 4 day or the last leg and you're running close on making your commute. And don't think that DL, AA, UA, ASA, etc. etc. will give a damn about who is behind them when its their turn at the table.

I know that when we were doing our "safety program" at ASA, We tried to taxi as slow as possible, but never with somebody behind us, if we could help it. I know that it is not always possible to do, but we tried.

Making my commute takes first priority over everything else going on at the time, within the margin of safety or course. Getting out of the gate 10 early is usually the best way. Again, making my commute is number 1. If I'm not trying to get home to my family, then I'm all for the "safety program."

Ron Mexico 09-17-2008 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 463112)
I know that when we were doing our "safety program" at ASA, We tried to taxi as slow as possible, but never with somebody behind us, if we could help it. I know that it is not always possible to do, but we tried.


Sure you did. Its like saying I didn't her herpes, it was the other Vick. I am the one and only Ron Mexico.

higney85 09-17-2008 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Ron Mexico (Post 463507)
Sure you did. Its like saying I didn't her herpes, it was the other Vick. I am the one and only Ron Mexico.

Where is RICK JAMES?

Ron Mexico 09-17-2008 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 463526)
Where is RICK JAMES?


I would venture to guess he is eight-balled.


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