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Old 10-02-2008, 03:44 AM
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I own a small freight company and our truckers are limited to 11hrs driving and 3hrs on duty time not driving in a 24 hr period. Then they have to take a mandatory 10hr break in the 24hr period. And after I believe it is a 70 to 80 hr week they have to take a mandatory 34hr break.
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Originally Posted by btwissel View Post
graveyard tech/regs is how the government works. unless there's a pile of corpses on the 6 o'clock news, politicians don't care about it at all.
Allot of truth to that.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:06 AM
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The Air Transport Association will fight something like this to the bloody end.....
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Positive_Rate View Post
As much as it sucks, the government won't do a damn thing until [new] major accident occurs as a result of fatigue/long duty day...which I would bet isn't too far away based on things in the industry today...
I believe the crew on the AA MD-80 accident in Little Rock, Arkansas, a few years ago had been on duty approximately 14+ hours..........and the WX they were flying into was horrible. As always, NOTHING was done. If you're waiting for our government (specifically the FAA) to do something, you're better off waiting for hell to freeze over...................

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Originally Posted by HercDriver130 View Post
The Air Transport Association will fight something like this to the bloody end.....
True dat...
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:15 AM
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Obviously our congressmen are busy with something else right now so I am not sure any letters to them would get looked at right now. Would someone who just recently left the industry please go to the press. This needs to get more publicity to the people that depend on us.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AirTrucker View Post
I own a small freight company and our truckers are limited to 11hrs driving and 3hrs on duty time not driving in a 24 hr period. Then they have to take a mandatory 10hr break in the 24hr period. And after I believe it is a 70 to 80 hr week they have to take a mandatory 34hr break.
Hey, do your drivers get paid for the total time working, or are they by the mile? Pay for a 70-80 hour work week sounds pretty darn nice...might need that number for truckmaster.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:44 AM
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Perhaps I just don't understand. Was the accident a result of the crew being tired or a result of them goofing around, showing each other the nastiest porn they could find on their phones and missing a stop signal? I wonder if it was found that a captain was texting even five minutes prior to crashing short of the runway if we would get new crew rest rules or just get lambasted for being spoiled and irresponsible.
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Originally Posted by flynavyj View Post
Hey, do your drivers get paid for the total time working, or are they by the mile? Pay for a 70-80 hour work week sounds pretty darn nice...might need that number for truckmaster.



Well if they got paid for 70-80 hrs I my self would be out in the truck! Our drivers are paid by the loaded mile, since they are sub contractors, now company drivers get paid all miles. Just imagine if pilots got paid by the mile, even for commuting witch I would say that would be like deadhead miles for a driver!
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Originally Posted by Speedbird172 View Post
Well 2 guys in Hawaii in recent months both fell asleep, and though I don't know the exact circumstances, I don't believe there are any major changes in any work rules as a result. I would hope it was at least looked into. Thank god that situation played out the way it did and not in tragedy, because that's unfortunately about what it will take for the feds to make changes.
They need to have a head on collision with a freighter DC-8 while text messaging for the FAA to have reexamine duty rules.
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