...per month.

I think it's $7K/month, not bad for an FO...as long as you don't have to move your family to sandland.

Although I may not agree with him on every point, I respect TW for his participation, and attempting to be part of the solution. It is ironic that a union (ANY union) probably would have put the kabosh on pass-or-out.

Im totally shocked.. I Didn't know that a company like Skywest could have such a policy. The upgrade training must be a really stressful environment knowing that if you screw up you are fired.. for life!! and basically with no opportunity to work for a good 121 Air carrier again EVER!....

TW I wish you the Best of lucks!

Oh yeah, I meant 7K per month. And TW doesn't seem to be complaining about the job too much.

And, no, I don't like cats, either...

"It is ironic that a union (ANY union) probably would have put the kabosh on pass-or-out."

Agreed. That was my point.

It's not quit THAT bad. I don't know what underlying issues were present in TW's situation, but very, very few folks actually fail upgrade and get fired (I suspect that outside issues unrelated to training were involved in this case).

Also TW attempted to upgrade into the EMB-120 without ever having flown the aircraft. This is a KNOWN risky evolution...it might be worth doing if you have a year or less with the company and want fast PIC time. If you fail and get fired you don't lose much seniority.

In a normal hiring environment, someone in this situation would have no trouble getting a job at another regional...everyone knows that "stuff happens", especially if your training record was good otherwise.

Sorry TW. That policy is jacked. I knew a girl that failed her Captain upgrade at Express I (Pinnacle). She did the "walk of shame" across the ramp as an F/O for about 6 months and then got hired at FedEx!!!! She wasn't so down after that. I hope you meet a similar fate. As for up or out....at UAL we have over age 60 guys in the right seat!!! Some guys first Captain seat is the 777. Why not? That is how it should be IMO. To each his own.

For accuracy sake he said $7k a month. Not a year. "What's to feel sorry for?" All I can say is wow. That's mighty big of you Mr. Moderator. How about a guy who's been working toward his career goals just had a very unfortunate thing happen? He might not have been pro-alpa but that doesn't mean he deserves what's happened. People are allowed their own opinions on matters and most of us are big enough to not try and rub their faces in it if it doesn't turn out the way they would have liked. There's nothing that says ALPA could have stopped this. It's possible and probable but to jump in and verbally slap a guy around is complete BS especially from a guy who's at a company that in fact has an in-house union.

If you're going to continue to bash people on a regular basis then you need to hang up your senior role here. You're suppose to be impartial and at least appreciative of the situations others are in.

Mine as well.

Why does everyone bash the CRJ/ERJ pilots on the ' Jet vs Prop ' technicalities, then turn right around and be understanding of a prop driver failing a transistion to jet cause it's ' hard ' ? Double standard ?

My initial and upgrade oral involved a lot of FAR/General Ops questions followed by systems questions about the airplane. 2 hours worth both times.