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JoeyMeatballs 10-28-2008 05:10 PM

supply and demand, TPIC is TPIC time, however if they are flooded with JET PIC guys they will want Heavier JET PIC etc.........

I would rather have 200HRS of SAAB PIC then 3,000hrs of JET SIC, but thats just me

Bond 10-28-2008 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 487631)
supply and demand, TPIC is TPIC time, however if they are flooded with JET PIC guys they will want Heavier JET PIC etc.........

I would rather have 200HRS of SAAB PIC then 3,000hrs of JET SIC, but thats just me

I agree it's all the same to most if not all companies in the US, stop this Jet vs Turbo bullsh!t.

Now overseas?!?!? That's a different story.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 10-28-2008 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 487789)
I agree it's all the same to most if not all companies in the US, stop this Jet vs Turbo bullsh!t.

Now overseas?!?!? That's a different story.

Well, I'd add in the past when everyone was hiring sure... Now that most airlines are furloughing I'm not sure if turboprop means as much as jet but who knows... and I was all turboprop guy before think I'm biased against turbine PIC time... Supply & demand - lot's of jet pic supply right now....

Bond 10-28-2008 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 487847)
Well, I'd add in the past when everyone was hiring sure... Now that most airlines are furloughing I'm not sure if turboprop means as much as jet but who knows... and I was all turboprop guy before think I'm biased against turbine PIC time... Supply & demand - lot's of jet pic supply right now....

I respectfully have to disagree with you, the few that are hiring (SWA mostly) do not discriminate based on type. Being a Jetjockey myself, I don't think I have an advantage over anyone flying a TP. Turbine PIC is turbine PIC.

captain152 10-29-2008 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 487865)
I respectfully have to disagree with you, the few that are hiring (SWA mostly) do not discriminate based on type. Being a Jetjockey myself, I don't think I have an advantage over anyone flying a TP. Turbine PIC is turbine PIC.

Agreed ... with the exception of Emirates, and maybe one or two other carriers out there overseas ... PIC is PIC, prop or not

The Juice 10-29-2008 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 487865)
I respectfully have to disagree with you, the few that are hiring (SWA mostly) do not discriminate based on type. Being a Jetjockey myself, I don't think I have an advantage over anyone flying a TP. Turbine PIC is turbine PIC.

Exactly.

You may have some airline personel who value jet over prop because they fly jets. And at another airline they may value prop pic over jet pic because lets face it, prop guys have to work a little harder and deal with more obstacles like weather. It is silly to say an advantage on either side.

Bottom line is who you know. As long as you meet the mins it comes down to your letter of recs and who walked your application in.

It is who you know.

Bond 10-29-2008 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 487996)
Exactly.

You may have some airline personel who value jet over prop because they fly jets. And at another airline they may value prop pic over jet pic because lets face it, prop guys have to work a little harder and deal with more obstacles like weather. It is silly to say an advantage on either side.

Bottom line is who you know. As long as you meet the mins it comes down to your letter of recs and who walked your application in.

It is who you know.

Sadly enough, if we learned anything from the last round of hirings at CAL and DAL, is that it's definitely who you know!!!

FlyJSH 10-29-2008 05:07 PM

Folks, we turboprop folks need to accept it: prop time will always play second fiddle to jet time.....

as long as the person interviewing has never touched a condition lever.:rolleyes:

The Juice 10-29-2008 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 488434)
Folks, we turboprop folks need to accept it: prop time will always play second fiddle to jet time.....

as long as the person interviewing has never touched a condition lever.:rolleyes:

And a 4 year degree is always better than a 2 and a Masters is best.
And 3 letters of rec is always better than 1
And someone walking in your application is better than not.
And 2 type ratings is better than 1.

Get the point.

There are sooooo many variables in getting hired at a major/legacy carrier. To say it boils down to someone with 1000 T-Prop PIC vs. someone with 1000 Jet Pic is a ridiculous argument. It has nothing to do with "playing second fiddle," but one piece in the entire puzzle.

Seggy 10-29-2008 05:35 PM

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